Message from @wuzamarine

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2020-02-13 12:28:41 UTC  

Faith and science can co-exist

2020-02-13 12:28:47 UTC  

Nope

2020-02-13 12:28:50 UTC  

It can

2020-02-13 12:28:54 UTC  

Faith in god can

2020-02-13 12:28:55 UTC  

Science forbids faith.

2020-02-13 12:29:12 UTC  

Just say: We're exploring gods creation thru science

2020-02-13 12:29:17 UTC  

thats what Golden always says

2020-02-13 12:29:24 UTC  

Nullius in verba (Latin for "on the word of no one" or "take nobody's word for it") is the motto of the Royal Society.

2020-02-13 12:29:35 UTC  

Faith is strictly forbidden from science.

2020-02-13 12:29:51 UTC  

science relies on proving everything. till date, it has found barely any proof of a god

2020-02-13 12:30:32 UTC  

Pi is science and Pi debunks god. For starters.
That's just one of the many.

2020-02-13 12:35:07 UTC  

You can prove some biblical lines wrong your pi example

2020-02-13 12:35:26 UTC  

Are the same passages in the Quran?

2020-02-13 12:35:37 UTC  

If it has 1 (one/uno) baloney, then it is no reference manual

2020-02-13 12:36:24 UTC  

lmao

2020-02-13 12:36:36 UTC  

The Quran claims to be written by divine inspiration

2020-02-13 12:36:40 UTC  

the bible not so much

2020-02-13 12:36:52 UTC  

The bible claims infallibility

2020-02-13 12:37:01 UTC  

Where?

2020-02-13 12:38:00 UTC  

That's just a link to the concept of biblical infallibility

2020-02-13 12:38:10 UTC  

scholars argue over this

2020-02-13 12:38:23 UTC  

while you can't argue over quranic infallibility

2020-02-13 12:38:27 UTC  

since it crushes the faith

2020-02-13 12:38:36 UTC  

The Quran was written by Mexican terrorists

2020-02-13 12:38:51 UTC  

It was written by a crossdressing nonce

2020-02-13 12:40:52 UTC  

If it has 1 baloney, it gets shelved next to Gone with the Wind. Another fiction story with some historical truth and a good moral.

2020-02-13 13:22:14 UTC  

I don’t think you could classify the Bible as fiction, though, since that’s not the intent it was written with. The worst you could say about it is that it’s poetry and fables from a particular culture interspersed with politically motivated history, but that’s a far cry from calling it fiction

2020-02-13 13:43:04 UTC  

The view that the Bible was written to 'control people' is basic and superficial at best.

2020-02-13 13:43:41 UTC  

If anything, it was the culmination of the moral teachings at the time that ended up persisting through for a variety of reasons.

2020-02-13 13:44:13 UTC  

The same systemic values you can find pretty much everywhere, and they all have a common root in biology.

2020-02-13 14:26:05 UTC  

Hairy Potter was a big seller to.
The Dead Sea Scolls read like the Potter isle at Barnes and Noble.
Ver 1, Ver 1.a, Ver 2, Ver 2 in Greek.

It was just a popular story amongst illiterate goat herders that had no clue.

Then the intellectuals of 1k CE polished it for 500 years.

They still missed a lot of holes though.

2020-02-13 15:51:46 UTC  

It absolutely was not written by “illiterate goat herders” lol

2020-02-13 15:52:09 UTC  

It fully was

2020-02-13 15:52:24 UTC  

then why was the story in oral tradition for 1k years before it saw parchment and quill?

2020-02-13 15:54:32 UTC  

The new testament wasn't even recorded in real time.

2020-02-13 15:54:33 UTC  

GG @wuzamarine, you just advanced to level 6!

2020-02-13 15:54:57 UTC  

Perhaps it was, but the people that compiled it were some of the most educated people of their time. It’s not intellectually honest to discount it as being the product of the uneducated

2020-02-13 15:55:18 UTC  

3rd tier to.

2020-02-13 15:57:55 UTC  

There are also copies of the New Testament from long before 1000CE, and that’s not even getting into the Old Testament, which is far older than that