Message from @Deleted User
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your point is irrelevant
I think that child mortality can screw off
because that would be addressed too
you assume that we have to go one issue at a time
it's a bad mindset
ok what is the point of your username
whats the purpose *
I sound like an accusatory asshole, Im just asking about its origins lol
it's a reference to a video, but that's diverting the conversation
Darn, you got me!!
Was just wondering cause Im somewhat of a runner myself and was wondering if it was meme or something other
GG @Sauropithicus, you just advanced to level 5!
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^ Me, diverting the conversation
why are you diverting?
I'm not, my point is that I wasnt and I was trying to make a joke about it, I suppose Im just not very funny
well we're kinda in a convo
well I am sorry
continue
I don't really have anything to say
Well you said that I was assuming that "we have to go one issue at a time", and idk where I implied that or even how that is relevant
it's relevant because you assume that there aren't ways to stop the symptoms of that
without just giving them to economic forces
ok well I would appreciate it if you could present a full argument that I could work with
what argument is there to present?
it's pretty straightforward
Do you want me to give an argument against capitalism or?
That would be great
Capitalism is bad because it prioritizes personal wellbeing over the common welfare. Whether or not something is good is not the primary concern, the main concern is individual profit. I don't believe in Capitalism because I believe that the state needs to have the power to organize and enforce the will of the people. I don't care about individual rights and I only care about what is morally good and collectively good. Capitalism does not inherently promote that, so I want a system that does. Once we realize that the economy only existed because it was deemed to be beneficial and only exists because people allow it to, we will be able to have an actually good economic system that puts the common good as the highest goal in the economy.
ooh
what system do u suggest
I was about to ask the same question
I will present a counter argument but I wanted to ask that first
great minds 🧠 🧠
something like syndicalism or corporatism
something that isn't communist or capitalist but adheres to the principles I laid out before
what specifically it is doesn't matter as much as if it's an honest system
oh ok then
not corporatism 😳
I would argue that what is morally good is non-aggression and the state is an inherently aggressive institution. Massive corporations/monopolies are created by the government. Capitalism allows the people to really vote (as tired as the expression is, I think it still reigns true) with their dollar. The will of the people will find its way. Capitalism is all about serving, which is what the community welfare is all about. There is no profit without service. The greatest profits are made by those companies who serve those of the community the best. Capitalism inherently promotes this. Capitalism is what creates wealth, etc