what if the mother was in an abusive relationship and got pregnant

she wouldn't want the child to suffer severe damage from her getting beat up

she can't take care of it properly

if your in an abusive relationship all i got to say report it to the police any opportunity you get

she can't take care of herself

yeah i agree on that

obviously we have no way of preventing abusive relationships

exactly

and abortion wont prevent children from being born into an abusive relationship

if you have no proof then reporting doesnt help

yeah the police system is also quite messed up

reporting and abusive relationship can get wore

worse*

mental or physical abuse?

physical in this scenario

https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system

then how is there no proof

wouldnt there be bruises

he can keep her in until she gets better

he can lie

well you got me there

unless she scratched him and there's his dna on her there's no proof he inflicted those wounds

and what she said

so in that case, what do you think would be the right thing to do

so mean, giving hard choices

what do you mean right thing to do? we kinda changed topics slightly

as in

keep the baby, adoption, abort

well if the father wants the baby he can force her to keep it regardless if abortion is legal or not

so you think a father has the same say as the mother has on whether she should keep the baby?

GG @ashnaa, you just advanced to level 4!

well he could threaten her

do you think thats right?

^

threatening her into keeping the baby?

no of course not

guess what that is: he's FORCING HER to KEEP the baby. that's no different from what would happen if abortion was outlawed.

then if its wrong why would he do it

well i mean it is different in terms of safety

but like