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2019-05-14 13:00:44 UTC  

The case doesn't rule in their favor

2019-05-14 13:01:00 UTC  

They would face your penalties

2019-05-14 13:02:43 UTC  

going to court is different than dying; if a court doesn't rule in the favour of the prosecution (and the prosecution wasn't lying), the plaintiff doesn't face charges??

2019-05-14 13:03:09 UTC  

i dont get what ur trying to say..?

2019-05-14 13:03:23 UTC  

there was proof that her allegations were false

2019-05-14 13:03:29 UTC  

Yea

2019-05-14 13:03:41 UTC  

if there was no proof, then that'd be debateable

2019-05-14 13:03:45 UTC  

Only on those cases I would support a penalty

2019-05-14 13:03:48 UTC  

yeah

2019-05-14 13:03:49 UTC  

same

2019-05-14 13:04:19 UTC  

there's usually not much proof of sexual assault tho

2019-05-14 13:04:25 UTC  

it's a he said she said scenario

2019-05-14 13:05:14 UTC  

which means people tend to believe the victim, but the majority of accusations are true

2019-05-14 13:05:37 UTC  

we shouldn't disregard rape allegations because of a few terrible people

2019-05-14 13:05:47 UTC  

Obviously

2019-05-14 13:05:54 UTC  

Also rape kits exists

2019-05-14 13:06:18 UTC  

yeah

2019-05-14 13:08:06 UTC  

That case was a witch hunt

2019-05-14 13:08:10 UTC  

Basically

2019-05-14 13:21:12 UTC  

"But what if the rape was real"

2019-05-14 13:21:49 UTC  

there is no what if in this scenario

2019-05-14 13:47:03 UTC  

@ashnaa I don't think any allegation of any crime should be immediately disregarded, however I am a strong supporter of innocent until proven guilty

2019-05-14 13:47:49 UTC  

We are not a society ruled by the mob, we do not conduct trials by media. That is what happened to kavanaugh

2019-05-14 14:47:36 UTC  

"Even the most vocal or passionate feminists will agree that the hashtag is only asking you to give the benefit of the doubt to the survivor who is often a woman or belonging to a disenfranchised part of the society, rather than automatically giving it to the perpetrator who is often a man. As Tarana Burke, civil rights activist and founder of the #MeToo movements put it in an episode of Mic Dispatch: “‘Believe women’ or ‘believe survivors’ is not just like, ‘Believe us at all costs, don’t investigate,’ you know, ‘If I say it, it’s true.’ It is—let’s start with a premise that people aren’t lying and at least give them the respect of interrogating what they’re saying.”

2019-05-14 14:48:28 UTC  

you don't need to disregard innocent until proven guilty or due process if you give the accusers the benefit of the doubt

2019-05-14 14:49:06 UTC  

yeah the purpose of media is to share your opinions and stuff, so that's just what people were doing

2019-05-14 14:50:02 UTC  

Its pretty much the court of public opinion

2019-05-14 14:50:21 UTC  

and in that court

2019-05-14 14:50:23 UTC  

he was guilty

2019-05-14 14:50:27 UTC  

or treated as such

2019-05-14 14:50:49 UTC  

the media doesn't decide the outcome of a topic; it voices the opinions of the general public on the certain topic

2019-05-14 14:50:58 UTC  

In an ideal society we wouldn't have court of public opinion but there's no way to even possibly limit it without completely and entirely invading people's first amendment right

2019-05-14 14:51:10 UTC  

thats correct @ashnaa

2019-05-14 14:54:34 UTC  

False rape accusations should carry 50% of the jail time

2019-05-14 14:54:39 UTC  

oh and it's not wrong cause the comments made by the media aren't defamatory as they haven't been proven false yet

2019-05-14 14:54:39 UTC  

GG @ashnaa, you just advanced to level 9!

2019-05-14 14:54:51 UTC  

Or 100%

2019-05-14 14:55:08 UTC  

yep agree if there's reasonable proof

2019-05-14 14:57:04 UTC  

Yes