Message from @ashnaa
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if there was no proof, then that'd be debateable
Only on those cases I would support a penalty
yeah
same
there's usually not much proof of sexual assault tho
it's a he said she said scenario
which means people tend to believe the victim, but the majority of accusations are true
we shouldn't disregard rape allegations because of a few terrible people
Obviously
Also rape kits exists
yeah
That case was a witch hunt
Basically
"But what if the rape was real"
there is no what if in this scenario
@ashnaa I don't think any allegation of any crime should be immediately disregarded, however I am a strong supporter of innocent until proven guilty
We are not a society ruled by the mob, we do not conduct trials by media. That is what happened to kavanaugh
"Even the most vocal or passionate feminists will agree that the hashtag is only asking you to give the benefit of the doubt to the survivor who is often a woman or belonging to a disenfranchised part of the society, rather than automatically giving it to the perpetrator who is often a man. As Tarana Burke, civil rights activist and founder of the #MeToo movements put it in an episode of Mic Dispatch: “‘Believe women’ or ‘believe survivors’ is not just like, ‘Believe us at all costs, don’t investigate,’ you know, ‘If I say it, it’s true.’ It is—let’s start with a premise that people aren’t lying and at least give them the respect of interrogating what they’re saying.”
you don't need to disregard innocent until proven guilty or due process if you give the accusers the benefit of the doubt
yeah the purpose of media is to share your opinions and stuff, so that's just what people were doing
Its pretty much the court of public opinion
and in that court
he was guilty
or treated as such
the media doesn't decide the outcome of a topic; it voices the opinions of the general public on the certain topic
In an ideal society we wouldn't have court of public opinion but there's no way to even possibly limit it without completely and entirely invading people's first amendment right
False rape accusations should carry 50% of the jail time
oh and it's not wrong cause the comments made by the media aren't defamatory as they haven't been proven false yet
Or 100%
yep agree if there's reasonable proof
Yes
They admit it half the time
Don't really fancy the whole "women's rights" thing.
I don’t really fancy the Jew
Right on