Message from @bensharpies

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2019-05-23 21:39:36 UTC  

and again using someone's preferred name and pronouns can sort of show them whether or not they are trans

2019-05-23 21:39:39 UTC  

if you get what i mean?

2019-05-23 21:39:46 UTC  

I get that 100%

2019-05-23 21:39:55 UTC  

introducing hormones doesn't change your gender

2019-05-23 21:39:57 UTC  

like they might feel uncomfortable with it, but if you never use it they'll never know

2019-05-23 21:40:26 UTC  

introducing hormones does not change your gender, trans men are men and trans women are women no matter if they start hrt or not

2019-05-23 21:40:34 UTC  

@Darman you can change your secondary sex characteristics, so that others will read you as that gender in public

2019-05-23 21:41:22 UTC  

yes, but scientifically they are their biological gender

2019-05-23 21:41:27 UTC  

of course

2019-05-23 21:42:07 UTC  

:/

2019-05-23 21:42:12 UTC  

you mean sex? @Darman

2019-05-23 21:42:26 UTC  

I'm never going to grab someone by the neck saying "you better watch it or you'll go home in an ambulence" for calling me a girl though

2019-05-23 21:42:31 UTC  

sex and gender correlate with each other or meaning they are the same

2019-05-23 21:43:14 UTC  

gender and sex are the same thing

2019-05-23 21:43:26 UTC  

that's actually kind of debatable

2019-05-23 21:43:42 UTC  

they're directly correlated, but not technically the same *thing*

2019-05-23 21:44:42 UTC  

for cisgender people, gender feels like their sex so they don't discern the difference. transgender peoples' gender doesn't align with their sex, hence needing to transition

2019-05-23 21:44:53 UTC  

sex is biological and physical, gender is simply a set of roles and stereotypes assigned with one's sex

2019-05-23 21:45:01 UTC  

they are, for example if you see a male on the street, what do you call them? you call them a man and the as for female you call them woman.

2019-05-23 21:45:05 UTC  

gender is inherently a human and a social construct

2019-05-23 21:45:21 UTC  

^ gender is not a social construct

2019-05-23 21:45:23 UTC  

ya its not

2019-05-23 21:45:29 UTC  

2 genders

2019-05-23 21:45:34 UTC  

roles and expressions based on gender are, not gender

2019-05-23 21:45:46 UTC  

^

2019-05-23 21:45:58 UTC  

that makes the most sense

2019-05-23 21:46:12 UTC  

inherent behaviors are not social, they're biological

2019-05-23 21:46:47 UTC  

of course there will always be anomalies, as occurs in nature, but in general that's the fact

2019-05-23 21:56:13 UTC  

oh yeah that's what i'm saying

2019-05-23 21:56:21 UTC  

i say gender is a social construct as it's simpler

2019-05-23 21:56:36 UTC  

but gender roles and stereotypes are what we need to rid ourselves of, not gender itself

2019-05-23 21:56:46 UTC  

it's useful, you could argue, as a way of labelling people

2019-05-23 21:57:36 UTC  

we shouldnt get rid of all stereotypes

2019-05-23 21:58:31 UTC  

woman are more caring and affectionate, thus better caretakers for children. getting rid of the motherly stereotype is possibly dangerous

2019-05-23 21:59:44 UTC  

stereotypes are harmful when it applies to discrimination. but simply acknowledging them helps our society more than it hurts

2019-05-23 21:59:54 UTC  

just like being "colorblind" is actually very harmful

2019-05-26 20:11:34 UTC  

Women can have careers, their main job is to look after the house and the children.

2019-05-26 20:11:34 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 1!

2019-05-26 20:11:48 UTC  

yes

2019-05-26 20:11:52 UTC  

back to the kitchen