Message from @Dr.Cosby

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2019-08-10 21:53:30 UTC  

So if there's a gender pay gap, it's partially women's fault for being "bad at negotiating their wages" and such?

2019-08-10 21:54:18 UTC  

Also elaborate what you mean by more valuable assets in many positions

2019-08-10 22:10:13 UTC  

Yes, women are not as good at negotiating their salary.

2019-08-10 22:10:37 UTC  

Men are better at most jobs, women are better at some. Thus more valuable assets

2019-08-10 22:11:05 UTC  

Are either of those things "fair" or a good REASON for there to be a pay gap? I don't think so

2019-08-10 22:11:43 UTC  

Women shouldn't have rights! They shouldn't be working, the only right they have is making me a sandwich!

2019-08-10 22:11:45 UTC  

Negotiating for a fair wage seems dumb, and if two human beings are working just as hard doing the same job, they deserve comparable pay

2019-08-10 22:15:36 UTC  
2019-08-10 22:26:32 UTC  

Why are women not as good at negotiating salaries?

2019-08-10 22:26:37 UTC  
2019-08-10 22:31:34 UTC  

Being shy/insecure, not knowing their value, being averse to conflict (in a work setting), and more succeptible to intimidation and coercion @Missy

2019-08-10 22:32:06 UTC  

<:facepalm:583246304151470090>

2019-08-10 22:32:07 UTC  

None of those are good reasons to be paid less, of course

2019-08-10 22:32:20 UTC  

@Missy get in VC

2019-08-10 22:32:31 UTC  

Unless you're going to work as a negotiator of some sort I guess

2019-08-10 22:33:48 UTC  

But like what are these specific positions

2019-08-10 22:33:54 UTC  

Which men are more valuable assets

2019-08-10 22:35:24 UTC  

Pretty much any job requiring large amounts of physical labor, for one

2019-08-10 22:35:54 UTC  

I mean, I can carry more potatoes than you, you know?

2019-08-10 22:37:27 UTC  

But those aren't typically high paying jobs anyway?

2019-08-10 22:37:36 UTC  

Indeed

2019-08-10 22:38:34 UTC  

But also why are you stereotyping women?

2019-08-10 22:38:48 UTC  

Because stereotypes exist for a reason?

2019-08-10 22:38:57 UTC  

There are exceptions for everything

2019-08-10 22:39:02 UTC  

Then one you just said was untrue largely

2019-08-10 22:39:23 UTC  

Men being stronger and being able to carry more potatoes is untrue largely?

2019-08-10 22:39:50 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513098563924918273/609878600807612472/Screenshot_20190810-183845_Discord.jpg

2019-08-10 22:40:03 UTC  

Okay, but that one is patently true

2019-08-10 22:40:07 UTC  

No

2019-08-10 22:40:22 UTC  

I meet women every day that are outgoing while also meeting those who are shy

2019-08-10 22:40:25 UTC  

Same thing with women

2019-08-10 22:40:43 UTC  

And not every woman has insecurities about their value at least regarding work

2019-08-10 22:41:06 UTC  

Also how are they more susceptible to intimidation?

2019-08-10 22:41:08 UTC  

Outgoing doesn't necessarily translate to negotiation of salary

2019-08-10 22:41:13 UTC  

Dude

2019-08-10 22:41:23 UTC  

That's just wrong

2019-08-10 22:41:34 UTC  

And how are they more susceptible to intimidation? Are you really asking this?

2019-08-10 22:41:40 UTC  

There's nothing to suggest women are worse at negotiating salaries

2019-08-10 22:41:51 UTC  

You can negotiate without receiving

2019-08-10 22:42:05 UTC  

Yes I'm really asking that

2019-08-10 22:42:28 UTC  

How are they more susceptible to intimidation assuming this is a functioning work environment?