so we cant agree

or come to any resoultion

you're using the sociological definition of gender @FoundALegalDwarf

GG @alexandra, you just advanced to level 2!

not the medical definition

which in my mind

Thats the acedemic/metaphysical understanding, literally not applicable to reality

is the correct definition

If gender rolea are only a social construst, than why do you feel the need to transition in the role doesnt really exist?

GG @Shnaky, you just advanced to level 1!

there's no "correct" definition yet - i'm in the camp that gender dysphoria and being trans is a medical condition

yeah

so we

FUNDAMENTALLY

Reality ia not subjective buhdee

DISAGREE

because we

dont have the basis of which we argue

@Shnaky you seem to be trying to railroad the conversation so i'm actively ignoring you

we need to agree on definition to debate

You did it first by implying what i do and dont know

what exactly are we in disagreement about

Ive transitioned and went back, i know 2x as much tranny shit than you

Shesh

k calm down with that shit dude

more ad hominem

its a civil debate

Woman means mother. No social construct can change that fact

You can try to be pretty or vain, but it doesnt make you a mother

>>> *A gender role, also known as a sex role,[1] is a social role encompassing a range of behaviors and attitudes that are generally considered acceptable, appropriate, or desirable for people based on their actual or perceived sex.[2][3] Gender roles are usually centered on conceptions of masculinity and femininity ,[2] although there are exceptions and variations. The specifics regarding these gendered expectations may vary substantially among cultures, while other characteristics may be common throughout a range of cultures. There is ongoing debate as to what extent gender roles and their variations are biologically determined, and to what extent they are socially constructed.*

k im leaving i cant debate medical definitions

lmao

Academia is corrucpt with metaphysical concepts

that's from wikipedia but okay

Wikepedia is more often wrong and cherrypicked information

clearly everyone else is wrong and you're right @Shnaky you know more *tranny shit* than anyone

wikipedia is wrong, the oxford dictionary is wrong, medicine is wrong

Im serious though, acedmia doesnt define reality

Man cannot define reality

you're effectively stating that trans women cannot be mothers

that is not a gender role