Message from @Sh0t
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Period
2 Genders. Biologically a fact. Stop making up fantasy genders.
GG @Neokrates, you just advanced to level 1!
100% agree
"Please use the pronoun ze"
Actually, it's Zhe
today
Yes, for the vast majority of people they consider themselves either male or female, but there are a considerable amount of people who don’t fall under either label. For example there are a lot of non-binary people who don’t feel comfortable under either label and to say that there identity isn’t real is hurtful and hateful. It does no harm to anyone to acknowledge a non-binary persons identity, so why not? If a person feels more comfortable living as they please then under either of the current restrictive labels, then why shouldn’t they? Gender in it’s nature is subjective anyway (this is different from sex), for example is short hair required for someone to be a biologist male, no but when we think of “men” a lot of people might think of that. Is pink required for someone to be a biological women, yet again no but when we think of “women” a lot of people might think of this. Even in 19th century America, children, regardless of gender were referred to as girl until the age of 2 when they started to develop distinctive characteristics. Gender is subjective and inherently meaningless so yet again what harm does it do to acknowledge these people who don’t feel comfortable under either of these restrictive and meaningless labels. There are even people who don’t fall under either label biologically because of intersex people, how would you categorize them? The binary system of categerization, while it works for the majority of people there are a notable amount of people who don’t fall under either and to not recognize their existence is hateful.
It's not exactly rocket science
> It does no harm to anyone to acknowledge a non-binary persons identity, so why not?
That's where you're wrong, kiddo
if it was really just as simple as acknowledging their "identity", then sure
but it's not that simple
and you know that
structuring society based on the whims of a tiny minority is bad and dumb
letting MtF athletes compete against biological females is fucking ridiculous
The athlete question is quite valid
I think for sporting purposes, "discrimination" is perfectly valid
We already do it in weight classes for fighting, for example
also, the pronoun thing is really irritating. Who do these people think they are that they can change the fucking language people use
even if they never tried to legislate it (which obviously they will given the chance) it's the epitome of fuckfacedness to demand someone call you some made up term and then demand they remember all 187 other made up terms so they don't offend you or your friend
Live in the shadows like lepers, I say
🙂
I only have a problem with that stuff in terms of it being enforceable in a work setting
Like, I already avoid crazy people right?
And if I see them at the store, no big deal
Especially since most aren't even acting out in any way
But sure, I can imagine a future where I get fired because I don't want to refer to my coworker as an elephant or something
That said, if the janitor thinks he's an elephant, and he's a good janitor...
If he's a nice guy, I'll probably call him an elephant if it makes him happy
@qwasi this has nothing to do with the transgender community in this context, no matter whether they are MtF or FtM they still would call themseleves Male or Female
But I don't like the idea of getting fired over not
TBF, that's main reason why I'm glad I'm rich
that's what these screeching assholes don't get, stop screeching at me and I'd probably cal you whatever you wanted me to
Avoiding people I dislike was my major motivation
@The Meme Lord what do you mean it has nothing to do with the trans community? It had everything to do with trans people
if you hack your dick off and dress like a man, but you are biologically a female, you're still a female
I think being really militant against that stuff actually makes it more likely for laws and shit to be passed that restrict freedom of speech
What I was originally talking about was how our binary notion of gender doesn’t accomidate for non-binary or intersex people
or get one attached, whatever these nutbags do