no it appears that the ranking system as demonstrated in Rome was made from the "first men" concept

but who overthrew Rome in the end?

What ranking system?

Patrician and Plebs

Oh that was only an early republic thing

There were so many rich plebs and poor patricians by the fall of the empire that no one super cared about those distinctions, certainly not outside of Italy

And Greece

But to answer your question, I wouldn’t say that Rome was “overthrown”

No but wasn't Christianity the reason Rome fell at all

As much as it decayed

The short answer is no.

That was Gibbon’s theory, but it’s not given a lot of credence these days

welp then I'm now really gonna go then

we'll agree to disagree

Lol

Oh I would love to hear your *well informed* opinion about how Christianity caused the fall of the empire

I’m sure it will be well researched and not a random spouting of semi-related Wikipedia articles

Goodnight 😘

Your duke definition didn't come from wikipedia?

May wanna stop shooting yourself in the foot

Oh, I knew that off the top of my head

Goodnight 😊

I just sent you the text from Wikipedia so you’d believe it

listen Sophie is more educated please leave her alone

Sophie is a nonce destroying QUEEN

Sounds like dick riding

and white knighting<:oof:555925164966019093>

People who lean so much on Wikipedia are not to be trusted

https://sharylattkisson.com/2019/05/wikipedia-is-broken-controlled-by-special-interests-and-bad-actors-says-co-founder/

anyone that links you shit from Wikipedia is suspect, either they're too stupid to realize Wikipedia is biased as fuck or they do know and they're trying to deceive you

People like @Sophie are smart enough to know that Wikipedia is controlled information, therefore her purpose is to deceive

Lol Wikipedia rates higher on accuracy (not to mention scope) than any other encyclopedia

And of course, you can cross-reference the sources yourself.

These folks will drop their pants around their ankles and trust whatever squirts out of Trump's hole, but treat Wikipedia as some sort of left-wing propaganda tool

eh its an open source. best to treat it like the media. read, interpret, choose whether to take its word or cross-reference and get some other proof as well

(ofc should do the latter of the last two options)

Well, it's good to be skeptical of everything. Textbooks are FULL of inaccuracies, mistakes, and revisions.

Too bad there's no way for someone to edit them on the fly, eh?

That would be handy

;)

In any case, I agree that it shouldn't be taken as gospel