men are afraid to do half the stuff because they are scared of something I forgot what it was 😭

I believe its intense societal pressure on men to be stoic and closed off

and toxic masculinity borderlines a farce anyways

Its such a stupid fucking concept

The point is that both genders can get raped and that steps to support both sides need to be made, it shouldn't be another competition in the oppression olympics

Well said

"Lets take all these toxic behaviors and attribute it to men and masculinity and then insult men for being masculine while attributing lots of positive behaviors to femininity and say men need to be more feminine"

Societal pressure to be stoic? How?

Huhhhh

Its literally language tricks

That’s what I’m sayinggg

And if you *do* treat it as a competition then that kind of shows you don't actually give a shit about the problem, or at the very least are misguided as hell.

Exactly, soup. It's just so contradictory

It shouldn’t be a competition which gender gets raped more because in the end it’s traumatizing for both genders and should be handled

I hate that shit too, makes absolutely no sense.

also^

@Will-O'-the-Wild There is intense pressure on men to not show emotion in public, to not be vulnerable to others, to essentially "suffer in silence" in regard to any kind of emotional or even physical suffering from popular culture and even basic instinct

It is very difficult for a large majority of men to open up

Especially in a public forum

That is not really what stoic is supposed to mean.

Yes, but it's also difficult for women too

But what I mean by toxic masculinity is like if they cry about something apparently it’s “feminine” or they’re told to “be a man” idk how to explain it 😂 that’s just an example

The topic itself is very sensitive and difficult to open up about

On both sides

I mean the general basic definition from english, not the philosophical definition

Well men do show emotion in public, just not emotion that makes men appear more fragile and vulnerable if that helps

@un chien m'a léché un pbj😳 exactly, and whenever I get upset about something I'm told to stop being such a woman by my boyfriend's friends. It's ridiculous, showing emotion isn't feminine, its human

GG @Braden's Husband, you just advanced to level 4!

Not all men are like this, obviously. But it's sad that some are

Well I mean there are plenty of women that expect men to be strong and closed off

and in fact seek men out like that explicitly

Like it's sad how some women are manipulative and can get away with falsely accusing a man of rape and ruining his carrer

Yeah, which I think is sad

Men should be allowed to show emotion without being frowned upon

Oh yeah, society and the legal system in many countries currently overvalues female to male accusations of rape

Although a big portion of it is trial by social media

Which is ridiculous

Absolutely

By social media, do you mean online?

Which if that's the case, that is ridiculous. People can be persuaded and manipulated online very easily

I mean the social media "influencers" that convict people of something well before the trial date or the "Twitterati" that engage in organized disinformation campaigns