Are not asians

18/1000 white men vs 23/1000 asian men, and 66/1000 black men in terms of arrests per 1,000 people https://www.ethnicity-facts-figures.service.gov.uk/crime-justice-and-the-law/policing/number-of-arrests/latest

They are if we're using the definition that you would use in the Uk

That's black people

Not pakistanis and indians

Jesus we've been over this

I literally said asian men

"***BillcatToday at 5:14 PM
18/1000 white men vs 23/1000 asian men...**"

nvm I was looking at In 2017/18, Black people were over 3 times as likely to be arrested as White people

let me look at the article

You seem to do this quite a lot lemon

You just ignore what I say, see a word, and immediately jump to insult me or disagree...

GG @Billcat, you just advanced to level 6!

Meanwhile I am genuinely looking over each thing you say before I respond. Isn't that the point of a discussion?

Here it literally says Asians are arrested at a lower rate than the overall rate...

Overall rate vs white rate, and I'm specifically referring to the male rate

I said all of this above, had you bothered to read past the first line you'd have seen that...

Female Male
Ethnicity Arrest rate per 1,000 Number of arrests Arrest rate per 1,000 Number of arrests
All 4 102,919 22 595,818
Asian 2 3,321 23 42,955
Black 7 6,913 66 59,006
Mixed 6 3,538 34 20,267
White 3 80,632 18 425,148
Other inc Chinese 3 1,508 19 9,567
Unknown N/A* 7,007 N/A* 38,875

oh wait i can send screenshots now

Nvm

so its 23 vs 18

See, this is my point. It's like you read the first graph and ran with it

and 23 vs an average of 22

Bearing in mind these stats are not controlled for any external variables

GG @The Lemon, you just advanced to level 20!

This is just the raw data

External variables are my argument, that being a toxic inner city culture present in both the UK and USA.

So why are you blaming it on immigrants then?

Because toxic inner city culture is unrelated to immigration

At least recent waves of immigration that we've seen

Because they are contributing to it and even entering it. They are two separate but similar issues that combine to create the perfect storm

But you can't prove that with these statistics

So why are you treating these stats like they are proof of this idea

Also as I tried to say before but you didn't listen, these statistics are to do with the overall population

They aren't for immigrants

Therefore they include millions of people who have been born and raised in the UK

I know. I **specifically** told you I was not referring specifically to immigrants

But unless I'm grossly mistaken this argument is about immigrants and the great replacement?

And you said that immigrants were bringing these non western values with them and it was causing crime

And now you are using stats unrelated to immigrants to try and back up that hypothesis?