Message from @!GoldenKingship!

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2019-10-11 17:18:03 UTC  

**which of these sources do you want to talk about first**

2019-10-11 17:18:17 UTC  

They are all the same.

2019-10-11 17:18:42 UTC  

We are talking about race and IQ so i think its all relevant with these studies because thats what they include.

2019-10-11 17:19:03 UTC  

yes, but these are each individual studies with individual research that prove your point

2019-10-11 17:19:10 UTC  

since you want to use them

2019-10-11 17:19:11 UTC  

I have many more studies i can link since it apears there isnt a sufficent amount ot choose from.

2019-10-11 17:19:13 UTC  

we should actually review them

2019-10-11 17:19:24 UTC  

in order for you to actually argue your point using them

2019-10-11 17:19:54 UTC  

Are we reviewing or debating, Whats your counter arguemnt to mine?

2019-10-11 17:20:35 UTC  

we're debating, you posted sources, i'm asking you to review these sources in order to show how they prove your point so we can have a coherent debate

2019-10-11 17:21:04 UTC  

okay.

2019-10-11 17:21:13 UTC  

you know what, i'll start off

2019-10-11 17:21:28 UTC  

this is the second source you posted, i believe

2019-10-11 17:21:37 UTC  

the abstract from here

2019-10-11 17:21:37 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 3!

2019-10-11 17:21:46 UTC  

"Psychological tests at 8 months and at 4 years of age were administered to 129 children of interracial (Negro-white) matings in the Collaborative Study. These interracial children were divided into two groups, depending on whether the mother was the white or the Negro partner. Stanford-Binet IQs of the 4-year-old children of white mothers averaged approximately 9 points higher than those with Negro mothers (p<0.01). The only behavioral difference on the Bayley Scales of Infant Development at 8 months of age was in favor of the interracial children of Negro mothers (p<0.05). The results are interpreted as supporting the hypothesis that postnatal environmental factors make a very substantial contribution to racial differences in intelligence test performance."

2019-10-11 17:22:10 UTC  

2019-10-11 17:22:25 UTC  

i'm assuming you're supposing this proves your point because the interracial children have higher IQ's than the black children alone

2019-10-11 17:22:30 UTC  

am i right

2019-10-11 17:22:51 UTC  

That is a study.

2019-10-11 17:23:02 UTC  

**Yes, it is a study.**

2019-10-11 17:23:24 UTC  

am i right though

2019-10-11 17:24:28 UTC  

I am showing whites overall have higher IQ's and that's what these studies have conclusively hypothesized correctly.

2019-10-11 17:24:42 UTC  

in relations to blacks

2019-10-11 17:25:01 UTC  

golden am i right or not

2019-10-11 17:25:18 UTC  

okay, you know what

2019-10-11 17:25:20 UTC  

Yes

2019-10-11 17:25:23 UTC  

cool

2019-10-11 17:26:03 UTC  

i disagree with your statement, the point of me asking is because there is a similar study in which black children are adopted by white families, specifically having white mothers

2019-10-11 17:26:58 UTC  

in this study you'll find both black and biracial children score high (on par with their white counterparts), presumably due to how culturally white mothers teach vs black mothers teach

2019-10-11 17:27:11 UTC  

as a matter of a fact, the researchers of your study said the same thing was a possibility

2019-10-11 17:27:22 UTC  

here's a quote from your source

2019-10-11 17:27:53 UTC  

" The results suggested that maternal influences of
intellectual functioning are substantial and placed in doubt the validity of the
genetic argument regarding the cause of mean racial differences in IQ. "

2019-10-11 17:28:48 UTC  

this is also at a age in which IQ variation and consistancy is more dependent on genes as well

2019-10-11 17:28:49 UTC  

No necessarily true, i would say genetics do have an involvement.

2019-10-11 17:29:30 UTC  

okay, that's fair to say, but once again your belief or standpoint is that genes are responsible for the gap

2019-10-11 17:29:35 UTC  

and mines is that it's the enviorment

2019-10-11 17:30:08 UTC  

I would say it is yes the DNA.

2019-10-11 17:30:42 UTC  

alright, is that all you have to say in response to my counter arguement?