Message from @abby_ella

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2020-02-04 19:15:56 UTC  

She’s hot anwyays

2020-02-04 19:15:59 UTC  

Anyways*

2020-02-04 19:16:08 UTC  

Jk her mom even looks like a Minecraft character

2020-02-04 19:16:14 UTC  

Probably shouldn’t have reproduced at all

2020-02-04 20:23:16 UTC  

this area just reeks of dummy

2020-02-04 20:26:27 UTC  

holy fuck

2020-02-04 20:26:28 UTC  

@abby_ella because race mixing is damaging particularly to the child

2020-02-04 20:29:44 UTC  

So is discrimination

2020-02-04 20:29:45 UTC  

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2020-02-04 20:30:24 UTC  

I don’t advocate for discrimination, if you are referring to segregation

2020-02-04 20:30:33 UTC  

I do advocate for making it illegal to race mix though

2020-02-04 20:30:56 UTC  

Saying discrimination is harmful is *not* a counter argument to race mixing is harmful

2020-02-04 20:34:06 UTC  

Ok then, prove your point. Prove that that’s harmful to anyone

2020-02-04 20:34:43 UTC  

Gotta go to class but I have a bunch of links saved. When I’m back I’ll dump them and ping you.

2020-02-04 20:41:23 UTC  

Here’s a peer-reviewed study that traces the origin of negative health effects among minorities to percieved discrimination as a stressor

2020-02-04 20:42:33 UTC  

Which would seem to suggest that any negative health trends among mixed race individuals are likely the result of, you know, opposition to their existence by racists such as can be seen in this chat

2020-02-04 20:42:51 UTC  

In other words, if you’re opposed to “race mixing,” you’re the problem

2020-02-04 21:08:08 UTC  

@abby_ella
1. Race mixing is racism/race hatred. How is mixing races out of existence not race hatred? How is mixing races out of existence racial love/racial respect? Every person I've ever asked has been unable to answer this. Race mixing is race hatred not because of the feelings or intentions of the individuals involved, but because the very act of race mixing inevitably mixes races and entire racial lines out of existence.

2. Race mixing is scientifically proven to have detrimental consequences such as mixed race people having infertility, lower IQ, mental health issues, defects/disabilities, etc. due to being mixed.

Mixed people are more likely to have a variety of medical issues.
Sources:
- White-Asian children are twice as likely as Asians to have mental illness. http://news.ucdavis.edu/search/news_detail.lasso?id=8732
- White/Black babies are less healthy than White babies. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2867623/
- Mixed race couples are more likely to have stillborn babies than same-race couples. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15994621
- Black-White children are more likely than both Black and Whites to make poor decisions. http://www.nber.org/papers/w14192
- Mixed race kids suffer from low self-esteem, social isolation, and poor family dynamics. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
- Mixed race children are more likely to have health problems, high stress, smoke, and drink. http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1448064/
- Interracial people cannot receive certain organ donations. http://content.time.com/time/health/article/0,8599,1993074,00.html

2020-02-04 21:08:40 UTC  

Checkmate!

2020-02-04 21:45:06 UTC  

@!GoldenKingship! Interesting data points. The article I posted offers a framework for interpreting those data points in a way that ultimately explains those correlations (since, as we all know, correlation is not causation) as the result of stress from racism and real or perceived discrimination. So, no, not checkmate, at all

2020-02-04 22:04:41 UTC  

@abby_ella 1. your article focuses on african americans, so im curious to see what your argument is for asian americans who are statistically more prone to mental illness when mixed race

2020-02-04 22:05:26 UTC  

2. even if what you are saying is right, humans are tribalistic. It is a natural impulse to be wary of people of different skin, its a survival mechanism.

2020-02-04 22:07:13 UTC  

Therefore, it would be unwise to advise against what you are arguing.

2020-02-04 22:07:42 UTC  

It is actually bad for us to do so, and for everyone else to do that either. Which is why I suggest a homeland theory, not necessarily a discrimination theory

2020-02-04 22:08:01 UTC  

You are also discounting the fact that races are biologically different

2020-02-04 22:08:09 UTC  

Your one argument does not provide a framework, rather an excuse.

2020-02-04 23:12:24 UTC  

I can’t really comment on point 1, as that study’s not been done yet. But there is racism against Asian-Americans, so it would be reasonable to apply the same to that population as well.

Your second point is basically, “people in the past lived in tribes, so we should too.” Why? Just because people in the past fought each other because of some imagined community, why should we, in the 21st century, feel any need to do the same.

I actually have to applaud you for being honest about the real root of your views on this. You say that people in the past were “wary” of people from a different group. I understand now- you’re afraid of people who look different. That’s a difficult impulse to overcome, and you have my sympathy. But your fears shouldn’t drive public policy

2020-02-04 23:20:47 UTC  

Lol that’s not what tribalism is

2020-02-04 23:20:55 UTC  

Also being smug will not get you anywhere

2020-02-04 23:21:02 UTC  

It’s a survival instinct, not a fear

2020-02-04 23:24:04 UTC  

I'm really mixed, both my parent's are mixed- And I'd say I'm pretty blessed. Also, the articles above don't seem very credible in all honesty.

2020-02-04 23:25:27 UTC  

They arent lol

2020-02-04 23:25:51 UTC  

Their only conclusive on the basis for a general group of people

2020-02-04 23:26:13 UTC  

You would get the same results examining any race ethnicity or people lol

2020-02-04 23:26:16 UTC  

@CaramelKitten anecdotal

2020-02-04 23:26:16 UTC  

GG @lololol, you just advanced to level 2!

2020-02-04 23:26:22 UTC  

@Bleach highly untrue

2020-02-04 23:26:33 UTC  

At lea set in non post-postmodern nations

2020-02-04 23:26:44 UTC  

Or in non capitalist nations

2020-02-04 23:27:47 UTC  

That study doesn’t conclude that mixed race children are going to have higher race of detrimental predisposed genetic issues