Message from @Techpriest

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2019-04-03 15:03:38 UTC  

Where inflation is a huge contributor in the Euro for the Greeks, and Greece does have the power to print Euros which the EU don't want them to do.

2019-04-03 15:03:50 UTC  

The Greece Economy isn't as growing as expected, and is somewhat even stagnating.

2019-04-03 15:04:20 UTC  

The Greek Debt is not owned in a majority by its people, but of foreign interests. Thus foreign powers get to dictate what they get to do with their credit to Greece.

2019-04-04 08:11:07 UTC  

"red pills" discredits everything you said lol

2019-04-04 10:42:33 UTC  

Debt IS a bad thing. You see, you have to pay interest on that debt and when the debt goes up, so do interests. Iirc, in 2019 US will be paying like half a trillion for servicing debt. (Debt servicing= interest payments)

The problem with US debt is, that its running out of places to borrow from. Foreign nations are cutting their debt acquirements, so do biggest shareholders of US debt rn.

2019-04-04 10:43:03 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/513098448640278539/563312572061712394/Debt_owners.jpg

2019-04-04 10:43:18 UTC  

Federal reserve is currently the only place to borrow from

2019-04-04 10:43:35 UTC  

Thats the current public debt

2019-04-04 10:43:51 UTC  

But the real trojan horse is in future liabilities

2019-04-04 10:44:04 UTC  

Possibly hundreds of trillions

2019-04-04 10:44:19 UTC  

Lowest estinates go as high as 80 trillion

2019-04-04 15:59:34 UTC  

Yes that's the real debt problem

2019-04-04 15:59:39 UTC  

Unfunded Liabilities

2019-04-04 15:59:53 UTC  

But U.S. Debt based on other spending?

2019-04-04 15:59:55 UTC  

🤷

2019-04-04 17:20:09 UTC  

by other spending you mean....?

2019-04-04 17:52:41 UTC  

Anything not an unfunded liability

2019-04-04 17:53:47 UTC  

For example some military emergency spending

2019-04-04 17:53:57 UTC  

Suddenly needs $10 millions in for a project

2019-04-04 17:53:59 UTC  

Np

2019-04-04 17:54:06 UTC  

Those wi get paid by next year

2019-04-04 17:54:13 UTC  

But liabilities? Hardly

2019-04-04 17:54:24 UTC  

Those debt are a per-year basis

2019-04-04 17:56:30 UTC  

in conclusion= the state is already bankrupt

2019-04-04 17:57:28 UTC  

what could possibly extend its life: for the next 4-5 years not increasing the current spending which would result in smaller deficit

2019-04-04 19:10:37 UTC  

Or

2019-04-04 19:10:39 UTC  

Better idea

2019-04-04 19:10:46 UTC  

We coup the U.S. government

2019-04-04 19:11:02 UTC  

And the new government void all old government debt

2019-04-04 19:15:55 UTC  

You don't know how debt works. Even though you posted a direct image of it, and I'm astounded by this, you somehow manage to state the case completely wrong. The debts are owed to the government _to itself_, primarily. We're not "running out of places to borrow from", and we own more debts than we owe. Here's a simple article evaluating this fearmongering: https://www.titlemax.com/discovery-center/money-finance/debts-owed-by-the-us-and-owed-to-the-us/ and here's an explanation of how international debt works: https://www.quora.com/What-countries-owe-the-U-S-money

2019-04-04 19:16:42 UTC  

In some cases these are bonds, in other cases investments, loans, but primarily things like bonds.

2019-04-04 19:17:32 UTC  

There is no "running out of debt". If things were to absolutely collapse the remaining exchanges would tend to equal near zero, and the USA is hardly left holding the bag. The only time this reaches a crisis point is when the economic activity of a nation results such that bonds, and the like, end up with no or _negative_ return.

2019-04-04 19:19:09 UTC  

And this is generally how the fear mongering works: You only ever see "How much debt the US has", you never see "How much is owed to the US"

2019-04-04 19:22:35 UTC  

The only other way to explain it is in this manner: What you are effectively doing is taking somebody's investment, producing things with it, and giving them a fraction of it in return. Debts are naturally going to rise, from foreign and local government, simply as a product of a variety of forms of these kinds of investments. Such as in the case of bonds.

2019-04-04 19:23:02 UTC  

The only real "crisis" would be a default, wherein maturities would not be paid, and that's nowhere near forthcoming without a major economic catastrophe.

2019-04-04 19:23:22 UTC  

Hence that's why it's the real problem

2019-04-04 19:23:24 UTC  

Unfunded Liability sir

2019-04-04 19:23:33 UTC  

It's when you dont wanna pay your debt to your own citizens

2019-04-04 19:23:40 UTC  

but you'll find a way somehow

2019-04-04 19:23:53 UTC  

It's a problem when it happens no matter the scenario. It's literally definitional. "If it fails then it fails".

2019-04-04 19:23:53 UTC  

GG @Wojak, you just advanced to level 1!