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No fight pangolin

Only pet pangolin

2019-03-02 13:45:36 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Heh, I get invited to a server that lists "gay" in the same category as "vore" under "disgusting". Hilarity. Also hello.

2019-03-02 13:45:59 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Did I miss how roles work? Usually servers have a role bot.

2019-03-02 13:46:05 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I didn't see it in the rules channel.

2019-03-02 13:49:16 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I found it just as you @'d me

2019-03-02 13:49:19 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I'm a dum

2019-03-02 13:49:57 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Guess I wait 24 hours then.

2019-03-02 13:49:59 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 13:50:11 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

No idea. Someone on Gab.

2019-03-02 13:50:15 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Watches my stuff I guess.

2019-03-02 13:50:35 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Figured I'd poke my head in.

2019-03-02 13:52:11 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Science related videos on human behavior. Psychology mainly so far, but I do have a very diverse array of interests. Just no time. So mostly psychology as yet.

2019-03-02 13:52:29 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I rather rigorously delve in to the science, publications, etc. Actually read the literature.

2019-03-02 13:52:32 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Something most people don't do.

2019-03-02 13:53:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

So far, also, a lot to do on loneliness, incel related (in that incels are lonely), things like that.

2019-03-02 13:53:28 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

My boyfriend says I take too many words to say things >:I

2019-03-02 13:53:36 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Fix me I'm broken :p

2019-03-02 13:54:59 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If I'm a tourist can I wear a Hawaiian shirt?

2019-03-02 13:56:27 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Well, that's infinitely better than a lot of "criticism" I receive. So far only from people who seem to think the very _idea_ of trying to investigate whether something is true is a heresy.

2019-03-02 13:56:39 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Lots of them came out of the woodwork concerning corporal punishment.

2019-03-02 13:56:59 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Feeling a bit slow on a subject is always preferable to giving up and assuming superiority.

2019-03-02 13:57:02 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I mean, yeesh.

2019-03-02 14:02:25 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

That's iffy. I've always read more than anyone else I've ever known. From fiction, to history, and so forth. I don't know how to "cultivate" it without a natural sense of obsession for learning. I read because I have to. Or I won't figure out how to know what's true or false. More information means more to work with. Means less mistakes. It means the best possible chance of seeing as much of the world as possible - and definitely do not discount fiction for this. Far better philosophy is written in fiction than in university.

2019-03-02 14:03:11 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Adolescent development isn't "kool" since they found out none of their studies on interventions validated. Buuut they still do on young children. Tabula Rasa springs eternal.

2019-03-02 14:03:31 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Hence why all those intervention studies try reaaaaaaaaaal hard to never longitudinally check beyond childhood.

2019-03-02 14:03:37 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

And anyone who does realizes interventions do nothing.

2019-03-02 14:04:08 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Also, it's my general sense that people _hate_ teenagers.

2019-03-02 14:04:35 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Any wonder teenagers hate the world. Everyone hates them by default.

2019-03-02 14:04:45 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It's pretty despicable how we treat adolescents.

2019-03-02 14:05:21 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Anyone would, treated with such neglect or, even worse, dismissal.

2019-03-02 14:05:35 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

"Oh, you're learning how to figure out the world? Fuck off until you do"

2019-03-02 14:05:39 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

_So helpful_

2019-03-02 14:06:16 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Well, that and the rape.

2019-03-02 14:06:20 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Lots of that going on.

2019-03-02 14:06:29 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

But as long as men are the ones being raped, who cares?

2019-03-02 14:06:50 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Highest rape stats in the nation aren't prison. It's Juvie.

2019-03-02 14:07:14 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

That's the sick thing: Prisoners have recourse to the law.

2019-03-02 14:07:20 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

The law rolls its eyes at teenagers.

2019-03-02 14:08:34 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I suspect more than several mysterious shank implements have been introduced to rape victims by someone's under-the-table idea of "fixing" the problem without reporting it.

2019-03-02 14:08:52 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Fixes two problems, right? Who cares if the criminal gets more time, right?

2019-03-02 14:09:07 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I know how this shit works. And there's a reason I have zero respect for the law.

2019-03-02 14:10:06 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

You also see a lot of victims of Munchausen's by proxy.

2019-03-02 14:10:13 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

"He's crazy. No really."

2019-03-02 14:10:30 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

And how does a _not_ crazy teenager prove his _mother_ is the insane one? He doesn't.

2019-03-02 14:10:33 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

He's never given the chance.

2019-03-02 14:11:00 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If he tries, well, he's a narcissist who thinks he's superior to his poor innocent mother.

2019-03-02 14:11:08 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Lots of very bad "psychiatrists" on government pay.

2019-03-02 14:11:41 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I do. And I want to burn the industry to the ground.

2019-03-02 14:12:09 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

HELL no. I saw the product, I talked to them, I _listened_ and investigated.

2019-03-02 14:12:14 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

And NOPED right the fuck off that idea.

2019-03-02 14:12:24 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I do not think, one instant, that any fucker who works in those facilities is a good person.

2019-03-02 14:12:38 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

They're all power craving lunatics who want easy ways to abuse power and justify their superiority.

2019-03-02 14:12:45 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It _attracts_ narcissists.

2019-03-02 14:12:56 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It _attracts_ people who abuse authority.

2019-03-02 14:13:05 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Because teenagers are the single most vulnerable population - and they know it.

2019-03-02 14:13:25 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Hooooly shit no.

2019-03-02 14:13:29 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It's no better.

2019-03-02 14:14:33 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Once upon a time I almost did university with the intent of working to help people like that. Good for me I was smart enough to do investigating first. A lot of it.

2019-03-02 14:14:42 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Chose to major in mathematics instead.

2019-03-02 14:14:50 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

But spent all my time doing psychology anyway.

2019-03-02 14:15:04 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Psychology has sort of rotted to the core. Lack of control and filtering.

2019-03-02 14:15:21 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

There's no checks and balances against abuses of power and authority.

2019-03-02 14:15:32 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It's hideous how that occurs in a field where it should be MOST prevalent. MOST cautious.

2019-03-02 14:16:24 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

To be fair, Kragt, you often do have to exercise and force social interaction. inasmuch as you can stand it.

2019-03-02 14:16:33 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

A good psychologist would help you figure out how.

2019-03-02 14:16:39 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Just being told "do this" doesn't help.

2019-03-02 14:16:55 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 14:16:58 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 14:17:14 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I was a jehovah's witness until I turned 14. Got out of that one in a hurry.

2019-03-02 14:18:12 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Well, yes and no. Researchers absolutely are trying to figure out how to help people. But there's a sort of detachment between academia and the session-culture with the research and intent of the science.

2019-03-02 14:18:41 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Often the best way to help is introspection. Which, yes Kragt, often means researching it yourself.

2019-03-02 14:18:48 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

To help introspective people that's what you should foster.

2019-03-02 14:19:01 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

That gives you a sense of self efficacy - agency.

2019-03-02 14:19:10 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Power and control and ability to make your life better.

2019-03-02 14:19:26 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It's helping people with BAD introspection that you need to really direct thoroughly and carefully.

2019-03-02 14:19:50 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Tons of clinical tools given to people, like mood charts, are exactly for people with bad introspection.

2019-03-02 14:20:00 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

People who cannot really think about their mental states or remember them reliably.

2019-03-02 14:20:31 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

No. 5. And that's personality assessment. I'm talking about mood.

2019-03-02 14:20:44 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

"16" is the sort of myers-briggs pseudoscience astrology.

2019-03-02 14:20:58 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

There are a lot of useful tools in psychology but also a lot of bad psychologists who don't know how to use them.

2019-03-02 14:21:42 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 14:21:56 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

572, can I steb?

2019-03-02 14:22:08 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 14:24:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Meditation helped me considerably.

2019-03-02 14:24:15 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

More than anything else before or since.

2019-03-02 14:27:37 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Well, meditation and buddhism helped. Learn to let go.

2019-03-02 14:30:33 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Like most things given to you fast and cheap, it's fattening and bad for you.

2019-03-02 14:33:40 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I just recommend everyone to Ajahn Brahm. Decades of videos of his talks, very simple, somewhat repetitive, but strictly original buddhism.

2019-03-02 14:34:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Theravadan buddhism works, and with none of the highly religious ritualistic gobbledeegook other cultures added on to it.

2019-03-02 14:34:13 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Learn to let go, and to be mindful.

2019-03-02 14:34:16 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Simple is what works.

2019-03-02 14:35:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It does have some ritualistic gobbledegook, but any sensible person can see the point isn't the ritual. In fact _the first listed stage of enlightenment is to accept that_.

2019-03-02 14:35:13 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Yes, over a disagreement. I forget about what.

2019-03-02 14:35:47 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Basically the council or whatever wouldn't back him over what he thought was essential and important. Being that was the case, he stepped down from it as the only viable solution.

2019-03-02 14:35:56 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Since he could not, _especially_ not as head monk, do otherwise.

2019-03-02 14:36:05 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

You cannot be a buddhist and go "Well I'll just ignore this then"

2019-03-02 14:37:26 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

You develop introspection by meditating.

2019-03-02 14:37:37 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Hence the whole development of it.

2019-03-02 14:39:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Nah, he wanted to make things less of a workload by expanding committees with people he trusts. Apparently it got vetoed by the use of some proxy or other legalese.

2019-03-02 14:39:30 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

He thinks that was unethical, as the people who vetoed didn't even (according to him) know what was going on.

2019-03-02 14:40:11 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I'd link buuut no link.

2019-03-02 14:40:17 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

So google ajahn brahm resignation

2019-03-02 14:40:20 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

it's a very short letter.

2019-03-02 14:40:42 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 14:54:56 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I was.

2019-03-02 14:55:02 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

>Got home
>Not tired at all

2019-03-02 14:55:04 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


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2019-03-02 14:55:25 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


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2019-03-02 14:58:01 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Today was "I'm falling asleep on my feet"
>Get home

2019-03-02 15:01:38 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Hard drive.

2019-03-02 15:01:43 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I can't exactly upload them.

2019-03-02 15:01:56 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I got them legit from all the fuckers I bilk who have subscriptions to Nature et al.

2019-03-02 15:02:05 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

:V And nobody say otherwise.

2019-03-02 15:05:49 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Very often authors upload their own papers on their own website, if they have one.

2019-03-02 15:06:07 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Usually googling a title will also list a PDF from a university portal, or even a public available full version elsewhere.

2019-03-02 15:06:46 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If _everything_ fails there are other means. Either use a university or public library (which can get the study from the university on loan per request) or various pirate platforms.

2019-03-02 15:07:04 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I use all available legal means.

2019-03-02 15:07:37 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Also, when googling, use search flags and options properly.

2019-03-02 15:07:44 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

"This in quotes" searches EXACTLY what is in quotes.

2019-03-02 15:08:01 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

filetype:X where X is the type (filetype:pdf) will only return that file type.

2019-03-02 15:08:13 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Look up google's search settings or flags or such.

2019-03-02 15:08:23 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Your first attempt should be an exact search of the title.

2019-03-02 15:08:37 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If you do not have the title, try the author and year with general keywords about the topic summarized.

2019-03-02 15:08:47 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Often newspapers and others will intentionally NOT cite the source directly.

2019-03-02 15:08:49 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

The fuckers.

2019-03-02 15:09:14 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


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2019-03-02 15:09:25 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 15:09:50 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If a journalist ever wants to interview me I have only one answer.

2019-03-02 15:09:53 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

"Go fuck yourself"

2019-03-02 15:10:30 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

An honest journalist is like an honest prosecutor. They play cards with Jesus and Santa on Thanksgiving.

2019-03-02 15:13:30 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

see ya

2019-03-02 15:48:07 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Disturb's cover is one of the worst covers I've ever heard.

2019-03-02 15:48:10 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Fiteme <:ree:480188470942498827>

2019-03-02 15:48:59 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It misses the point, all the points and all possible points, and radically alters the song to unrecognizability in a manner that renders the lyrics useless.

2019-03-02 15:49:27 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Ramping up to pointless screaming (comparatively so) doesn't deliver the message, it does the _opposite_.

2019-03-02 15:49:34 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

_The song was presented monotonously for a reason_

2019-03-02 15:52:43 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

You're allowed to have a wrong opinion.

2019-03-02 15:52:44 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 15:54:29 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I'm just being a shit.

2019-03-02 15:54:48 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Though I honestly don't like Disturbed's cover.

2019-03-02 15:55:35 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Uh, no.

2019-03-02 15:55:44 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If you're going to claim that you reaaaaaaaaally don't know Simon and Garfunkel.

2019-03-02 15:57:06 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

And so did mine, and my grandmother.

2019-03-02 15:57:22 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Yes, they did typically sing in a basic harmonic style, but it's not monotonous as this song is on average.

2019-03-02 16:31:09 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 16:31:11 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I am.

2019-03-02 16:31:50 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

No and that's a really stupid idea most famous for how stupid it is.

2019-03-02 16:31:53 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 16:32:12 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I meant I am that wojak @The-Free-Monk mentions

2019-03-02 16:39:58 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I look away for five minutes

2019-03-02 16:40:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

What's going on?

2019-03-02 16:40:33 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 16:42:11 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Raaaace isn't akin to breeds either no.

2019-03-02 16:42:19 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

But that's irrelevant to the first point.

2019-03-02 16:42:31 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Xychotic, relating to "race prefer their own kind", this is actually not true. To be clear, not _necessarily_ true by any means we've devised to determine "preference". For example, cross-cultural validations of attractiveness find no variance in what races find attractive. But there are variances in what they _will admit_ is attractive (hence you have to be careful in how you go about studying this to avoid that racism bias).

2019-03-02 16:42:54 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

To be absolutely clear, if and only if the person in question is highly tribalistic with a strong ingroup preference, then they prefer members they perceive of as their own group.

2019-03-02 16:43:07 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

And, to be absolutely clear, that _isn't_ a majority in most societies or groups.

2019-03-02 16:43:19 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Highly tribalistic highly ingroup-driven people are almost always a minority.

2019-03-02 16:43:57 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Furthermore, this preference _is not_ based on race most of the time, but rather perceived group affiliation of which race may only play a small or incidental part.

2019-03-02 16:44:18 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

As in the case of highly tribalistic left-wing blacks who call right-wing blacks "uncle tom" or "race traitor" in spite of sharing the group "black".

2019-03-02 17:03:09 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

@Lilu Using a condom during masturbation as well as a silicone masturbator can help.

2019-03-02 17:03:24 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Sex researchers deal with sexual dysfunctions like low stimuli on the regular.

2019-03-02 17:03:41 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

The general treatment for sexual anhedonia is a slow acclimation toward less sensation while still achieving orgasm.

2019-03-02 17:04:04 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Ideally, to be able to achieve low stimulation orgasm without porn.

2019-03-02 17:04:22 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

That usually helps sexual functioning for people with sexual anhedonia or delayed orgasm.

2019-03-02 17:04:46 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Delayed orgasm is a considerable problem for some - far moreso than "premature" ejaculation in many cases.

2019-03-02 17:05:34 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

"nofap" is not healthy. Ask any doctor, a lack of ejaculation considerably increases risk of prostate problems. Not just cancer.

2019-03-02 17:05:47 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Or, rather, I'd say _not ejaculating_ isn't healthy.

2019-03-02 17:06:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Those are not sufficiently frequent.

2019-03-02 17:06:22 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If you're in a relationship with access to regular sex, not masturbating can help if you experience delayed ejaculation.

2019-03-02 17:06:46 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

"optimal" depends on the person.

2019-03-02 17:07:12 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

In terms of maximally reducing prostate, urethral infection, etc, a few times a week or so.

2019-03-02 17:08:02 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Note I did not mention only prostate cancer, but prostatitis, urethral infections, etc.

2019-03-02 17:08:09 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Also his concept there is hilariously misleading.

2019-03-02 17:08:39 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

"Prostate cancer has an extremely low mortality"? Um, no. Depends on all the factors. What age you get it at, whether it's caught early, whether you get regular screenings, etc.

2019-03-02 17:09:04 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Your quote just lied by misusing all of his data to get the lowest possible number.

2019-03-02 17:09:21 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

As the saying goes: Lies, damn lies, and statistics.

2019-03-02 17:09:51 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

The same obsession with fad diets and fad exercises and fad everything else.

2019-03-02 17:10:06 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

A perceived lack of masculinity feeding paranoia and a desire to reassert what is perceived to be lost.

2019-03-02 17:10:17 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

When for most people all they need do is lose weight and exercise.

2019-03-02 17:11:02 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Case in point: For men where prostate cancer has mestasticized (spread to other parts of the body), survival rate is 30% or less.

2019-03-02 17:11:12 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Note how he tries to calculate _mortality_ of prostate cancer

2019-03-02 17:11:16 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

not _increased risk of getting it_

2019-03-02 17:11:40 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Well if you risk _increases_ and you're not getting checked, and it metastasizes, you're boned.

2019-03-02 17:11:56 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It damn well should be.

2019-03-02 17:12:22 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Prostate cancer is the most common cancer behind _skin cancer_ for men.

2019-03-02 17:12:30 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It is VERY common.

2019-03-02 17:12:43 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Risk factors include low sexual activity, obesity, smoking, alcoholism, etc.

2019-03-02 17:13:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

But this is not just about prostate cancer. It's about UTI's, infections, other complications.

2019-03-02 17:13:21 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Regular ejaculation is simply optimal for maintaining the health of your sexual organs however it is obtained.

2019-03-02 17:14:37 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

They serve the exact same biological purpose, Lilu.

2019-03-02 17:15:24 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Yes, Lilu.

2019-03-02 17:16:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

People who masturbate a few times a week generally have fewer UTI's, less prostate cancer risk, less prostatitis, generally any issue with the genitals they have fewer issues with in the long term.

2019-03-02 17:16:22 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Though to be clear this is with _any_ ejaculatory activity I am only referring to masturbation as a proxy.

2019-03-02 17:16:49 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

No, Cato, that's actually its own unique condition.

2019-03-02 17:17:25 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

In extremes it's dubbed "post orgasmic illness syndrome"

2019-03-02 17:17:40 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It's _primarily_ the product of guilt. Not kidding.

2019-03-02 17:17:49 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

You find it overwhelmingly in people with fundamentalist upbringings.

2019-03-02 17:18:02 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Also, yes, masturbating before bed is a great way to relax and sleep.

2019-03-02 17:18:13 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Or having sex before bed. Probably an hour or two before.

2019-03-02 17:19:00 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If you stand up triumphantly just because you had sex, you're probably a narcissist.

2019-03-02 17:20:37 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Also, there are more domains here than just for men. For women, there are whole domains of other concerns, like external masturbation or vibrators. I keep telling women, never ever ever use vibrators. Any activity that DOES NOT mimic sex as closely as possible reduces the ability to enjoy or achieve orgasm from the act, and in some populations eliminates the possibility of orgasm entirely.

2019-03-02 17:20:58 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I'm just parroting recommendations by sexual health researchers who deal with these issues clinically.

2019-03-02 17:23:02 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If possible, yes.

2019-03-02 17:23:20 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

But there are other ways, as I explained, to help this delayed or sexual anhedonia issue.

2019-03-02 17:23:31 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Like using a condom while masturbating to reduce the friction or overstimulation.

2019-03-02 17:23:51 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Ideally, using a condom with a penetrative toy would have the best effect if you can train yourself to that point.

2019-03-02 17:26:35 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

@secrite There's not much of a real benefit to fasting beyond 2-4 days.

2019-03-02 17:26:43 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

And the more prolonged the fast the more health risks you incur.

2019-03-02 17:26:57 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Unless you mean "cessation of masturbation"

2019-03-02 17:27:35 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 17:28:22 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I'm looking for it.

2019-03-02 17:28:40 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

One guy did a very meticulous analysis of his blood sugar over a prolonged period of fasting I wanted to find.

2019-03-02 17:28:44 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It's....I have it somewhere?

2019-03-02 17:28:57 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

No, I have tons of publications I save.

2019-03-02 17:29:01 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

And as a result I lose them.

2019-03-02 17:29:07 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It's irritating as fuck.

2019-03-02 17:30:07 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Fasting is great for reducing inflammation also related to insulin inflammatory effects - and immune system regulation.

2019-03-02 17:30:39 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

However, there are more risks with prolonged fasting due to cardiovascular stress. If you have any health problems at all, this could be an issue.

2019-03-02 17:31:00 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Same goes for maintenance of electrolytes. You can induce a stroke in sensitive individuals.

2019-03-02 17:31:43 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

If you fast _without_ maintaining electrolytic balance there are very severe consequences that could arise, including heart arrhythmia that may lead to a heart attack for people with underlying conditions.

2019-03-02 17:33:44 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I'm still trying to find the one guy who did a meticulous monitoring of his blood sugar.

2019-03-02 17:33:48 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Fuck me if I can find it

2019-03-02 17:34:43 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Nnnnnoooot relevant to what I wanted to use it for.

2019-03-02 17:35:04 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Primarily when I say fasting for prolonged (week+) periods has substantial risk IS related to medical studies.

2019-03-02 17:35:13 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

But I also wanted to mention something else, and I can't find the fucker now.

2019-03-02 17:35:15 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

God damn it.

2019-03-02 17:35:46 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 17:36:41 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Hunger peaks around day 3-4 (as he also notes) and tapers off - but AFTER the fast your blood glucose goes insane.

2019-03-02 17:37:09 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

The longer the fast the more extreme the insulin-glucose dysregulation.

2019-03-02 17:37:22 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

And this is one datapoint I wanted to share to visually demonstrate it.

2019-03-02 17:39:30 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Yes, this is also useful to visually see an approximation of the process.

2019-03-02 17:39:43 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

It's not population representative but it's a neat visualization of the general idea.

2019-03-02 17:42:00 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Anyway, primary medical concern here with prolonged fasts like a week or more is the longer the absence of food the worse the compensatory dysregulation becomes.

2019-03-02 17:42:11 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Refeeding syndrome is real and very dangerous.

2019-03-02 17:42:33 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

I did link it

2019-03-02 17:42:45 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  


2019-03-02 17:42:58 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

imgur /a/yN4QtU9

2019-03-02 17:43:37 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

But no, seriously, _look up refeeding syndrome_.

2019-03-02 17:44:03 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Week+ fasts are perfect candidates for the symptoms of it and they can progress, in extremes, to being fatal.

2019-03-02 17:44:56 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

Case in point: hypophosphataemia.

2019-03-02 17:45:07 UTC [Hermit Hangout #general-text🗿]  

This is what relates to the heart dysfunctions I mentioned.

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