Message from @Komrade Kam

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2019-04-12 14:53:56 UTC  

Morals change, at no point do we need to continue traditional morals. We need to continue justifiable morals

2019-04-12 14:54:06 UTC  

Removing the demand and supply of prostitution starts at the root of what causes sexual hedonism to occur in the first place.

2019-04-12 14:54:47 UTC  

Like, HIV?

2019-04-12 14:55:08 UTC  

Sexual hedonism is not a major issue. Women and men have the absolute moral justification to use their bodies as they wish, however, the key bit is if they wish

2019-04-12 14:55:16 UTC  

Is a moral structure justified in the sense that it teaches men and women to act in away that it would be repulsed by prostitution.

2019-04-12 14:56:02 UTC  

Sexual hedonism is not an issue? Pffft. Look at the divorce rates in the west, the growth of the LGBT and BDSM community.

2019-04-12 14:56:45 UTC  

If you give men and women the ability to be their own moral actors. Do children have the agency to be their own moral actors?

2019-04-12 14:56:53 UTC  

LGBT and BDSM are completely fine to exist and the rise in divorce rates is because of the means of which we use sexuality.

2019-04-12 14:56:59 UTC  

^That example shows your double think

2019-04-12 14:57:15 UTC  

Children do not have the mental capacity to make those choices

2019-04-12 14:57:32 UTC  

Men and women adults have the absolute right to treat themselves as they wish

2019-04-12 14:57:52 UTC  

So you are in favour of restricting morality based on circumstance then.

2019-04-12 14:57:56 UTC  

Children are able to chose their own morals to believe though

2019-04-12 14:58:10 UTC  

If they aren’t their own moral actors, what are they?

2019-04-12 14:58:26 UTC  

But every parent attempts to push their own morals on their children and will restrict their ability to act on those morals

2019-04-12 14:58:41 UTC  

Since they parents birthed them and have the most control over them, are they therefore the property of the parents?

2019-04-12 14:58:44 UTC  

Prostutions will do abortion

2019-04-12 14:58:59 UTC  

Seriously? That's not good...

2019-04-12 14:59:21 UTC  

You're trying to find straw men arguments versus attacking the actual argument

2019-04-12 14:59:37 UTC  

No it’s called Socratic deduction

2019-04-12 15:00:05 UTC  

They are not the property of the parents, however, the parent does have the ability to choose their child's rules and abilities

2019-04-12 15:00:13 UTC  

It's a simple matter of parenthood.

2019-04-12 15:00:17 UTC  

Are you a father??

2019-04-12 15:00:21 UTC  

My question is what are they then?

2019-04-12 15:00:30 UTC  

If they aren’t their own moral actors

2019-04-12 15:00:40 UTC  

And if they aren’t property

2019-04-12 15:00:40 UTC  

What do you consider a moral actor??

2019-04-12 15:00:43 UTC  

What are they?

2019-04-12 15:01:16 UTC  

An individual who is able to decide upon a moral world view and pursue it

2019-04-12 15:01:23 UTC  

What is a moral actor

2019-04-12 15:01:51 UTC  

I literally just told you lol

2019-04-12 15:01:59 UTC  

It just loaded

2019-04-12 15:01:59 UTC  

GG @Komrade Kam, you just advanced to level 4!

2019-04-12 15:02:19 UTC  

Key word is pursue, I child cannot pursue their own moral world view

2019-04-12 15:02:28 UTC  

Exactly

2019-04-12 15:02:43 UTC  

Porn is just prostitution with a camera? Are you in favor of porn @Deleted User ?

2019-04-12 15:02:46 UTC  

They are still under their parents' care

2019-04-12 15:02:48 UTC  

Moral actors to act have to have the agency to pursue

2019-04-12 15:02:57 UTC  

You said it messes up society and drains there morale?

2019-04-12 15:03:07 UTC  

But porn doesnt do that

2019-04-12 15:03:11 UTC  

it actually does the opposite