Message from @Billcat
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Wrong, entirely wrong. You do not *need* to go to college to have a good paying job. It helps, but it's not the sole route
Oh no ?
You can go to trade school, work your way up to middle management at a job that begins at minimum wage, etc
Which I was going to mention. However, the societal norm as well is seen as if trade school is frowned upon and many people do not want to do that. Many jobs these days that are outside the realm of trade school require a degree.
Exactly, that's a big societal problem, that you *need* a degree to succeed. There are other routes in life, and if you choose not to take them, and end up choosing a bad major which you cannot easily pay back, that's not my responsibility to pay for.
Join the military
^ That's another route one can take
You can get a great education there
For free
Plus you get paid for being there
And you are guaranteed a job
Yea, and you typically have a job lined up within the military. They give you a full ride education with the agreement that you'll provide your skills for the military
Also people are expected to pay 400-500 a month for their payments depending on how much they owe. Yet they have to get a job that pays not as much and have to balance hey do I eat this week or do I pay for this loan ?
Ok not everyone can join the military
It is becoming harder to join the military as well as rentention rates and recruiting rates are down
@Deleted User If somebody was forced to get a student loan then yea, you might have an arguement. However that is a choice a person made. Besides, any loan that requires a 500 a month payment will be netting in much more than that for the person who took the loan out
I might have an arguement? Most people going to college today have to get some sort of loan in order to pay for an expense in college
The simple fact is, out of numerous viable life paths, a person choice to get a college degree at that time of their life, and not only that, but apparently choice a degree that has not allowed them to pay off their loan. 4 years and $120,000 into a drama degree will probably not give you a goo return
@Deleted User Yes, but nobody is forcing them to go to college at that point in their life
What's wrong with, say, working 5-6 years after high school, saving your money, and then getting a degree?
There are many viable paths, the specific one that a person has chosen, that leads to debt, is not the fault nor the responsibility of the taxpayer
Because most these days are insisting on you going to college or getting out of the house and finding your own job and place to live
Who is insisting? Society?
How about education not be a privilege?.
Yea society
Answer me this, is anybody being compelled, by force, to go to college?
Yea at least 5% of the population
Please cite to me where anybody is being *forced* to go to college
I am one of them..
So somebody *forced* you to go to college? How so, exactly?
My pare said Trade School is a joke you arent going to get anywhere. And that if you dont go to college you wont be able to live here. It was either that or be homeless
That's not "forced" to go to college, lol. As an adult, nothing was stopping you from getting a minimum wage job and living within your means
I tried enlisting but recruiters tend to care mostly about their promotion.
So just be homeless ?
Really good Idea
No money and try to figure out where I would live
No? What stopped you from finding a minimum wage job and getting your own place? lol
Wait you had *NO* money saved before you turned 18?
???????????????
Literally 300 dollars to my name