Ok not everyone can join the military

It is becoming harder to join the military as well as rentention rates and recruiting rates are down

@Deleted User If somebody was forced to get a student loan then yea, you might have an arguement. However that is a choice a person made. Besides, any loan that requires a 500 a month payment will be netting in much more than that for the person who took the loan out

I might have an arguement? Most people going to college today have to get some sort of loan in order to pay for an expense in college

The simple fact is, out of numerous viable life paths, a person choice to get a college degree at that time of their life, and not only that, but apparently choice a degree that has not allowed them to pay off their loan. 4 years and $120,000 into a drama degree will probably not give you a goo return

@Deleted User Yes, but nobody is forcing them to go to college at that point in their life

What's wrong with, say, working 5-6 years after high school, saving your money, and then getting a degree?

There are many viable paths, the specific one that a person has chosen, that leads to debt, is not the fault nor the responsibility of the taxpayer

Because most these days are insisting on you going to college or getting out of the house and finding your own job and place to live

Who is insisting? Society?

How about education not be a privilege?.

Yea society

Answer me this, is anybody being compelled, by force, to go to college?

Yea at least 5% of the population

Please cite to me where anybody is being *forced* to go to college

I am one of them..

So somebody *forced* you to go to college? How so, exactly?

My pare said Trade School is a joke you arent going to get anywhere. And that if you dont go to college you wont be able to live here. It was either that or be homeless

That's not "forced" to go to college, lol. As an adult, nothing was stopping you from getting a minimum wage job and living within your means

I tried enlisting but recruiters tend to care mostly about their promotion.

So just be homeless ?

Really good Idea

No money and try to figure out where I would live

No? What stopped you from finding a minimum wage job and getting your own place? lol

Wait you had *NO* money saved before you turned 18?

???????????????

Literally 300 dollars to my name

Yea, I'm sorry to say, but that sounds like a fault of yourself, to only have a couple hundred dollars saved by the time you turn 18

Sure ok

I'm not claiming you have to be a millionaire but shit, even a couple grand is enough to get off on your own and find a job

Well sometimes you gotta make sacrifices for your own. My family didnt have that privilege. We barely made ends meet and so I had to help out then and there in the end only 300 dollars to my name.

A household with two parents couldn't make ends meet? With both working?

Mom was on and off with jobs. Dad was working 3 jobs basically

They apparently made enough combined that you didn't qualify for assistance, which means they made a decent amount, since the threshold is pretty high

Which is bullshit because I know how much they made and FAFSA needs to fix their shit because they dont know what poverty is

With, apparently 4-5 jobs worth of wages being put into this household (3 with your dad, 1 with you, and sometimes 1 with your mom) what was going on that couldn't make ends meet?

I dont feel comfortable sharing that info. All I am saying is that we tried hard to make it past the poverty line and ended up short.

Luckily my dad got a job with the goverment and my mom works with local government but I had to pay the price.

Anyway, my point being, that doesn't really add up. Nobody literally forced you to go into debt, there are other paths to life then the cookie cutter highschool > college degree > job. Trust me, I get shitty circumstances, I really do, but putting off the burden to somebody else isn't the solution.

Not everyone has the ability to. Its case by case.

Stonks