Damnit

You guys way overemphasise the extent as to which self-described liberals criticise capitalism

in America

the only country that matters

and sorry

as a socialist

Sometimes we do. I don't personally feel like I do though.

GG @VoVoDoCo, you just advanced to level 5!

Yeee

I don't view capitalism as either free or not free as if dependent on some particular policy or tax rate or whatever

Whether or not you'd consider a system 'free' is completely subjective

Capitalism is based on private ownership of the means of production, distribution, and exchange, as well as wage labour

Easy

Agreed lol

yeah

simple

Basic

so for me a libertarian is just a more radical liberal

who stole our word

so much for intellectual property protection

because unlike capitalism, socialism can exist without state management 😃

ever played fucking fallout my nigga?

get destroyed libtard

no my black person

guess im destroyed

gonna kill myself by drinking water

no state, pure capitalism

bottle caps 4 the win

interesting thing about fallout is that its a leftist critique

same with doom

or at least they originally were

https://tenor.com/view/maa-saraswati-good-morning-gif-10840955

good morning

@ZetMo
> the left got their word stolen

Liberalism isn't a label defining a preference of economics. It is an umbrella term for a large school of thought who's Foundation can be found thousands of years ago. It championed the empowerment of the individual over the collective, initially with an emphasis on economics.


**Inspirations of Liberalism**
Lao Tzu (600 BC)
Mencius
Arabi Nisollasaya
Xenophon
Anne Robert Jacques Turgot, the baron de l'Aulne (1727–1781)
Francis Hutcheson (1694–1746)

**Founders of liberalism**
John Locke (1632-1704)
David Hume (1711-1776)
Adam Smith (1723-1790)
David Ricardo (1772-1823)
John Mill (1806-1873)


**20thish Century Propagaters of Liberalism**
Menger (1840-1921)
Milton Friedman (1912-2006)
Fredrick Hayek (1889-1992)
Murray Rothbard(1926-1995)

Liberalism, in the context of being Libertarians mother ideology, has always been about Market advocacy over social justice.

John Rawls with his book called a theory of Justice, is often cited as being the source of intellectual Divergence in the liberal School of thought.

But nooooooo the left did not get their word stolen. Quite the reverse.

Also, who cares if capitalism needs a state to function? I don't plan on government getting abolidhed anytime soon So it doesn't really matter lol what point were you making there?

@VoVoDoCo They aren't true liberals, they are fake liberals that don't deserve the right to call themselves that.

The founders of liberalism don't deserve the title of Liberal?

The left invented Liberalism?

uh in what reality did they (the modern leftists) invent classical Liberalism?

Oh by they I thought you meant the people I listed

Yeah never mind lol