Message from @beyond_gravity
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Okay, so minimum wage is a different topic? I mean, it sort of is
But if you start regulating the "upper bound" on what is a reasonable wage for certain positions, why not a "lower bound"?
If it's ridiculous for a CEO to earn thousands of times what his employees earn, isn't it ridiculous for employees to earn not enough to...live?
i think they are two different issues
Perhaps you have a more fancy version of fixing the problem
regulating CEO pay does not impact a large proportion of the lower skilled workers
in the way that minimum wage goes
But without overhauling quite a few systems, I don't see a better solution than increasing minimum wage (both to compensate for inflation, as well as realistic economic opportunities in the places where they live)
Yeah, simply cutting CEO pay isn't going to do much, sure
increasing wages artificially doesn't solve anything
you know why?
if everyone on the bottom rung is earning more....
the market will adjust and everything that person needs to survive will go up in cost
due to capitalism taking advantage of the "extra cash" available
sorry i'm talking more in terms of universal income
I'm also for universal basic income
more that artificial wages disrupt the natural cost of workers
this is a good thing because it helps small businesses grow
if the small business has to pay the same labour overheads as the big business
who do you think can compete better?
that were labour being a massive cost to a particular business
there is also a problem where the person who wants the job is more then happy to accept a certain wage if the business can make another job available due to the lower cost of worker
and that job wont be available due to the minimum wage
I agree about the free market regulating things, for the most part. However, when a particular wage isn't enough for "living", isn't that enough reason to set a boundary?
You said you don't like minimum wage - do you think it should go away completely, then?
$0 minimum wage?
depends on what you define "living" as
Tell me though, I'm curious how extreme you are about this
i would be happy with no minimum wage
Okay
Now, THAT has been proven to be detrimental and leads to slave-like conditions for workers
how do you suppose that comes about
Perhaps there are other systems you'd have in place to offset that?
the business keeps lowering the wages ?
what incentive would they have if nobody takes that job
If NOTHING ELSE there are people who are stupid (or mentally ill), or immigrants without language skills and serious insecurities, or etc, that can be taken advantage of
so for example if they decide to pay you $2 dollars an hour and it costs you more to live then that