And yes, we can talk about complex systems as series of discreet effects. Saying that you can’t is like saying that, because ocean temperature is difficult to measure, Newton’s second law of thermodynamics is wrong.

These are complex systems with lots of interlocking parts. Just because the weather sometimes gets cold doesn’t mean CO2 isn’t heating the system as a whole.

So I’ll ask one more time- and please be aware, that if you refuse to answer again, you are conceding defeat: what would cause a supply curve not to slope up?

In your own words, using critical thought and writing in a calm, rational way.

if everyone just had a thing where they could all put their money people would have more money

True true

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Okay, folks

LUL you've *already* conceded defeat by *literally ignoring and downplaying the importance of all the arguments I've made*

after you failed to debunk any of the sources i provided, *you implicitly accept them*

and no, the problem isn't about measuring the discrete parts of a complex system, *its distilling their isolated effects*

climate change is a good example, if you assume there is no atmosphere at all and try to inject CO2 into the system, will you get a greenhouse effect? *no, because for such a system to be possible you need to have hardly any gravity*, so the Co2 is of no guarantee to even remain in the hypothetical planet's atmosphere. When you try to distill individual effects, *you must assume a fantasy* and in science, *we do not assume fantasies, we talk about effects in their original contexts, economists don't, and its why their modelling from false first principles are so inaccurate*

>what would cause a supply curve not to slope up?

i've answered this at least twice in this debate, and multiple times in other debates. the fact you keep coming back to this shows you have absolutely nothing. But again, since you failed to debunk them, i'll repost:
a) labour supply curve
b) empirical evidence from the firms themselves
c) supply curves dont even exist independently

*This is going nowhere, agree to end the debate and stop wasting my fucking time please.* People can read the arguments and decide the result for themselves at this point, because otherwise, here is what's going to happen, you're going to repost your previous rebuttals, im going to repost my previous rebuttals, and our posts will *literally go in a circle ad infinitum*. If you are confident in the strength of your arguments, you wouldn't be feeling the need to repost the same nonsense over and over, just let your arguments stand on their own merit and you will avoid this waste of time.

I love how some of you think mass immigration improves the economy, it just amazes me how uninformed our society has become on the topic of economics.

@Green Syndicalism Thank you for conceding defeat.

palpatine said it best

The fuck is this about?

About micro-economic stuff

Big brain economix

India best economy

china numba waan

Eh

black people are a burden to society

Source

Abraham Lincoln wanted to send the blacks back to their continent of origin so they can be more free but looks like that never happened.

People back in the 1860 wanted to emancipate slaves to send them to africa

But most of them were probably generational slaves who didnt know much about the culture in africa

So it wouldve not worked out sending millions of people across the alantic to somewhere like liberia

Blacks make too much work!

also it wouldve cost a lot of money

Poor whites cost the government a lot more

Opioid epidemic, farm payments

Diseased asset purchasing

Lol you are generalizing everyone that is white, quite the understatement dont you think?

Yes, quite the understatement

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Communism

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