Message from @Sh0t

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2019-10-18 00:15:10 UTC  

Also feedback mechanisms as in?

2019-10-18 00:15:53 UTC  

in your example there, that' seems hard to deal with now but we've been 'swimming' in a government pool for so long, we forget there are otherways people dealt with stuff like that

2019-10-18 00:16:12 UTC  

Ok I see

2019-10-18 00:16:17 UTC  

So you want self reliance

2019-10-18 00:16:19 UTC  

P much

2019-10-18 00:16:36 UTC  

Saying we are too dependent on government

2019-10-18 00:16:39 UTC  

it's deeper than that, take alternative punishments, like say ostracism

2019-10-18 00:16:48 UTC  

or even how we used ot use torts as our primary enforcement mechanism

2019-10-18 00:16:59 UTC  

I see

2019-10-18 00:17:01 UTC  

the victim is almost totally forgotten onw since the rise of DAs and xyz versus the state

2019-10-18 00:17:05 UTC  

before it was xyz versus abc

2019-10-18 00:17:07 UTC  

even for criminal cases

2019-10-18 00:17:20 UTC  

now the gov siezes your stuff and the police auction it off to fund their parties

2019-10-18 00:17:33 UTC  

before with more common law, trials were all about restitution

2019-10-18 00:17:42 UTC  

So your saying

2019-10-18 00:17:47 UTC  

The real anarchy is the govt

2019-10-18 00:18:22 UTC  

And that govt is masking the people

2019-10-18 00:18:30 UTC  

Which to some extent could be

2019-10-18 00:18:56 UTC  

But which govt auctions peoples stuff

2019-10-18 00:19:01 UTC  

And under what circumstances

2019-10-18 00:19:35 UTC  

well in my head currently, I can think of the actual timeline in the US as this process occured and how it changed society

2019-10-18 00:19:48 UTC  

How. So

2019-10-18 00:20:04 UTC  

in some cases, it was an active push to do it, for specific reasons, one example was dealing with pollution way back when factories started getting popular

2019-10-18 00:20:21 UTC  

used to be it was handled via tort system, the farmer would get injunction to deal with polluting factory

2019-10-18 00:20:35 UTC  

the feedback was direct and close to the victim and abuser

2019-10-18 00:21:12 UTC  

now when have the EPA and many layers of bureaucrats inbetween for same process, unless it's what state defines as blatant, which is not always the case as main reason why teh regulatory state grew was to give big business a cover op

2019-10-18 00:21:29 UTC  

like when the railroads funded the Conservation movement in 1880s

2019-10-18 00:21:48 UTC  

Save the Trees! was really a trick to get the gov to take the land, so the railroads could get free land use

2019-10-18 00:22:18 UTC  

partly why US fedgov owns so much land east of the mississippi river, almost owning entire states like nevada

2019-10-18 00:22:27 UTC  

why the homestead act was ended etc

2019-10-18 00:24:42 UTC  

in the process of doing that, it set into motion many 'tragedies of the commons' where there was no private rationing of resources instead gov would lease XYZ resource, and then every lease-holder had an incentive to use it up as fast as possible while they had the lease. then bureuacratic process and politics became the regulator instead of more natural time-value outlooks you get with say privately owned forests versus gov leased lumber tracts

2019-10-18 05:38:33 UTC  

*snores*
What a snoozer.

2019-10-18 06:39:40 UTC  
2019-10-18 13:56:49 UTC  

?

2019-10-24 20:49:01 UTC  

GG @Deleted User, you just advanced to level 8!

2019-10-25 19:11:00 UTC  

move like a ๐Ÿ , move like a ๐Ÿ,put your hands on your waist

2019-10-26 01:32:11 UTC  

Communism is good. Viva Fidel

2019-10-26 01:42:21 UTC  

@valeriaa The US is fucked and broken beyond repair

2019-10-26 01:43:34 UTC  

doesnโ€™t work okay

2019-10-26 17:29:09 UTC  

Should standard healthcare insurance cover the obese? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrcAD4vZ3iI