Message from @Katze Miaulitzer
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Here's your source on that
30% of its population died due to war and faminine and what have you
you say Capitalism kills 6 billion people whilst communism has on average, killed not only double that number, but tripled it in terms of death it's caused worldwide
The biggest problem is that since communism attempts to rectify the problems of scarcity, the left can say that any instance of death via scarcity can be blamed on capitalism, since capitalism doesn't aim to necessarily do away with scarcity but make the best of the situation.
So even though the death rate is higher in countries have low economic freedom, they'll still say that the deaths there are caused by capitalism.
There is truth to this. Although it's hard to deny the moral shortcomings that come with a purely capitalistic system (as demonstrated by extreme wealth inequality with people starving, living in poverty, and even "better off" people not being able to afford healthcare)
That's why I don't really get the diehard partisanship in these matters. It seems pretty evident that the best system is a combination of some sort. The good parts of capitalism, the good parts of communism (socialism, basically), wrapped up in the warm fuzzy blanket of democracy with wide checks and balances on the governing body.
The one I REALLY don't understand is Fascism...am I just getting trolled by the "fascists" in this server? I might be a big dumb
Democratic Socialism ay?
Idk maybe.
I just was overrreacing to the communists on this server tbh
because not everyone wants to live in an all inclusive society, which is were the desire for fascism steps in, although not required to go full force
Are there fascists on this server?
I haven't noticed them because the communists were too busy driving me insane lmao
ya its hard to tell in the presence of communists since everyone is a fascist to them (usually), but i think there might be a couple. even i might be depending on how you define it, idk.
i like the idea of a highly nationalist and exclusive society, but i dont think a dictator is required or even a single party state. But I believe in right of blood, rather than soil.
I believe in a society that's neither communist or fascist lmao
i like some aspects, such as the collective over the individual but still remaining within a set group and culture, so no globalists or mass immigrants
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Yeah and I think that the only form of socialism that really works is giving food stamps to the poor
I'm sorry for my madness
I'm sure that @@JaskaElide will go and make some glorious speeches about how great communism and get 'this is epic tbh' while ignoring the fundamental facts about how bad communism is and about how it murders people in real life time.
my dude you're hyperfocusing on this real hard, it doesn't matter how many people "communism has killed" because that doesn't prove it's bad you have to point out actual flaws, not say hoHO thE iDea OF cOMmUNiSm IS bAD BEcausE EmpIRiCallY iT hAS kiLLED LoT pEOPLE LIBtARD
@GoldenGail3 state one fundamental fact about how bad communism is
by any chance have you happened to read any piece of communist literature or even like a cliff notes of it
@JaskaElide You have some points, and I agree that dick measuring contests about what has killed more aren't usually helpful (especially with this many confounding variables)
Yeah cuz I won
also where in the fuck did i say capitalism kills 6 billion people every year, and how has communism killed 18 billion. i think you have a critical misunderstanding of the capitalist tactic of making shit up. it has to be believable, communism did not extinguish humanity 3 times over
LOL
Well I mean look at all the communist leaders, throughout history
yeah fuck em
hmm well maybe I should provide any sort of empirical backing for my claims... Nah, just tell em to look at history or something.
also @Katze Miaulitzer do you understand the entire population of the world during the cold war was under 3 billion do you understand that the population of every single communist country ever is lower then 10 billion unless youre suggesting communist leaders bred more citizens to just execute them after to rack up a high kda or some shit
How's that vodka tasting?
remember that time i had to walk you through why the earth supported life?
Oh I already know why the Earth supported life
You just used Venus as an example
Which is a horrible example