also morning @INNYGMATYK

I've always sucked dick with pistols. Had a 1911, could not qualify with my militia group to carry it. Could not do a 3 inch group at 11 yards to save my life. The MP17 pushes your accuracy out to minimally 50 yards.

@Deadbeat Radio my starfinder game. He was a lashunta Detective who gave zero fucks and had no issue body bagging perps n doing unsanctioned raids to get the job done

Far enough at least that you have to start factoring in bullet drop.

This is coming from someone with seriously low skill with pistols.

@INNYGMATYK what's up homie? How are you?

> I assume you open carry it?
@thedarkness05

Oh yeah, the holster is an extra $200, but totally worth it. It's phenominal.

@thedarkness05 sounds like a dope set up. I love that neo noir feel.

yeah 50 yards is about pushing it to where you're effective with a pistol anyways

You can always throw it on a sling too.

The absolute best way to get better at shooting handguns is to #1 Dry fire practice every day and #2 Shoot USPSA or IDPA competitions as often as possible. Sauce: A guy who's a hell of a lot better with pistols than he is with rifles

Pretty much, yeah, at 50yrds, it's time to grab your AR/AK

I feel you @Bard I have more formal training with my sidearm than my rifle. Mostly because the Armed Guard course focuses solely on pistols

@Deadbeat Radio hangin in there p:

Hope yall are well

Speaking of, Its almost time for me to requal with my duty pistol

> The absolute best way to get better at shooting handguns is to #1 Dry fire practice every day and #2 Shoot USPSA or IDPA competitions as often as possible. Sauce: A guy who's a hell of a lot better with pistols than he is with rifles
@Bard
What?? Lmao, dude, I feel like rifles are the easiest thing in the world. Like I start every new to guns friend on an AR-15. They always ask, "Shouldn't I start on a pistol?" and I'm like, "Pistols are hard and recoil more"

@Tiy991 ikr it's whack, when I say that I mean that I have a lot more "dynamic" trigger time with handguns than I do with rifles

I gotcha man. I'm not trash talking or anything. Most people would run circles around me with a conventional pistol.

I am far more experienced shooting and moving with pistols because of my circumstances i.e. the only place that does competitions within an hour of me at a reasonable scale and price

That place being a pistol club that does full scale USPSA comps pretty much every weekend

There aren't even any competitions/tactical training ranges around me and it's killing me. I'm in VA FFS, the "home of the NRA". I have to build or find a local with a range.

big oof

Fuck that sucks dude

Its ok dude, Im sure there arent any near me either

The only ranges are static indoor/outdoor things. Ain't no run and gun.

I would go innawoods and set it up myself, I have a shot timer etc. But very limited resources such as proper target stands, steel targets, barricades etc

Plus the nearest national park shooting spots are about an hour and a half away

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By the way, can anyone recommend some good hot weather multicam pants? I work outdoors in seriously ugly terrain. Thorns, swamps, climbing, crawling. Seriously strenous on clothing. I've got some BDUs, but they're ungodly hot in the summer.

Depends on your budget constraints

I mean, I like tru spec brand

If they're super thin but durable, like they won't fall apart under stress, but don't burn me up in 100 degree stupid humid weather, I'll pay whatever the price is.

I'd pay upwards of $200-$300 if they're sturdy and cool enough

Dri-Fire, Crye, Arctery'x LEAF, a few others

They have hot weather models?

They use them in Afghanistan 🤷‍♂️

I'll do some research for you

I actually believe they do have hot weather specific models

Good point... I've never served, so part of me just always assumed the military just liked torturing them with ungodly warm clothes.

Plus a bazillion other benefits

I'll get back to you