Message from @armitage

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2020-03-09 06:19:49 UTC  

if you're in business you should be making money hand over fist sweet profit

2020-03-09 06:19:57 UTC  

why the fuck do you have a bakery if you're breaking even

2020-03-09 06:20:05 UTC  

you should close anyways you're wasting time

2020-03-09 06:20:56 UTC  

if the only reason your business is alive is because you pay your employees less than what they need to survive then maybe your business is the one that should die

2020-03-09 06:22:01 UTC  

Well thatz what the whole workers rights movement was all about in the late 1800's

2020-03-09 06:22:04 UTC  

Also

2020-03-09 06:22:21 UTC  

Its not exactly an ideal job to keep at mcdonalds

2020-03-09 06:22:33 UTC  

Because its more of a teenager starting job

2020-03-09 06:22:45 UTC  

So no shit your not going to be paid the most

2020-03-09 06:22:53 UTC  

Because anyone can get that job

2020-03-09 06:23:04 UTC  

also a common argument but it's wrong

2020-03-09 06:23:22 UTC  

So how is it wrong?

2020-03-09 06:23:31 UTC  

90.7% of people on minimum wage are over the age of 20

2020-03-09 06:23:44 UTC  

I think its interesting how you brought up Seattle as an example of a 15 dollar minimum wage. This only applies to companies who have over 500 employees. Meaning if you are below that criteria 15 dollars wouldnt matter. But I used a bakery as an example of how a 15 dollar minimum wage could effect small businesses. But my whole premise is, it causes less competition for those unappealing jobs like trash collecting or disgusting low paying jobs.

2020-03-09 06:23:50 UTC  

over half are educated

2020-03-09 06:24:27 UTC  

Are you talking about worldwide? Or just the US?

2020-03-09 06:24:37 UTC  

US

2020-03-09 06:25:02 UTC  

I highly doubt that number is right

2020-03-09 06:25:17 UTC  

I don't think there is much competition for trash collecting as it is

2020-03-09 06:25:28 UTC  

If it was then the us wouldnt be the top richest nation in the world

2020-03-09 06:25:28 UTC  

pretty sure custodians are fairly well paid considering the job

2020-03-09 06:25:47 UTC  

Probably about 30% are paid minimum

2020-03-09 06:25:48 UTC  

it's not $7/hr

2020-03-09 06:27:42 UTC  

increasing the pay for collecting trash doesn't make people want to do the job less...

2020-03-09 06:27:42 UTC  

Well take a look a full time garbage collector vs a full time working at mcdonalds
mcdonalds full time salary is around 22k a year compared to a garbage collector which is 37k a year
sure many people might not want those disgusting jobs or there even being a massive competition for it. But there is competition for those higher paying jobs

2020-03-09 06:28:33 UTC  

Theres alot of competition nowadays for gaming for example

2020-03-09 06:28:38 UTC  

It's super fierce

2020-03-09 06:28:40 UTC  

And like

2020-03-09 06:28:59 UTC  

15 dollars is more than a garbage collector makes and mcdonalds employee would be forced to have a 15 dollar minimum wage. what is stopping people from taking those jobs at mcdonalds opposed to being a garbage collector

2020-03-09 06:29:04 UTC  

They will use cheap and dirty working tactics to make as much money as possible

2020-03-09 06:29:13 UTC  

37k/year is more than $15/hour...

2020-03-09 06:29:54 UTC  

for my area (florida) they get paid around 13 an hour

2020-03-09 06:30:40 UTC  

but you gave an example and they already get paid a living wage... so poor example

2020-03-09 06:31:10 UTC  

it fits with what I said... cleaning shit and bags of trash is already paid more because nobody wants to do it

2020-03-09 06:31:14 UTC  

yes i gave a livable wage of being a garbage collector and i gave a non livable wage being mcdonalds

2020-03-09 06:31:28 UTC  

Be a plumber

2020-03-09 06:31:52 UTC  

Its such a simple job and yet plumbers get tipped and paid a decent amount

2020-03-09 06:31:56 UTC  

Youd be surprised

2020-03-09 06:32:34 UTC  

my question is, what stopping people from taking that job at mcdonalds instead of being a garbage collector?

2020-03-09 06:33:33 UTC  

Why not, you could get a simpler and more fun job at mcdonalds then being a garbage collector

2020-03-09 06:33:39 UTC  

what's stopping them from starting a trash collecting business and making a billion dollars annually