Message from @Rox
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yeah so then dont talk about being the wrong color like there is such a thing as the right or wrong color.... It's demoralizing yourself and others around you when you talk about it like this is how it should be, color actually matters... it doesnt matter, it's their mindset that is fcked.
@Rox Yeah white city 2 dead, now...those riots aren't stopping anytime soon
I saw they even stole the fridges
@Rox You might want to some research about the "Freedom Charter" circa 1955 which was the founding document of the ANC ... EWC is not something brand new invented by EFF.
"Restrictions of land ownership on a racial basis shall be ended, and all the land redivided amongst those who work it, to banish famine and land hunger;
The state shall help the peasants with implements, seed, tractors and dams to save the soil and assist the tillers;
Freedom of movement shall be guaranteed to all who work on the land;
All shall have the right to occupy land wherever they choose;
People shall not be robbed of their cattle, and forced labour and farm prisons shall be abolished."
@Rox Correction...Half the population in general don't know about EWC, you should see the confusion amongst people when the topic is brought up
@Darkseid I know its scary
@Deleted User ANC has been in power for decades and have done nothing about it.. EFF are driving this crap
@Deleted User Show me where in that paragraph it supports EWC.
@Deleted User The constitution was not written in the current spirit..
Have you watched terror lekota speak out
@Deleted User Clearly supports land reform but where does it say they are going to take people's property without paying em
@Deleted User the term occupy didnt have the current conotations in 1955
@Darkseid I recon "he land redivided amongst those who work it" about covers it ... remember the same document mentions "the mineral wealth beneath the soil, the banks and monopoly industry shall be transferred to the ownership of the people as a whole" ... reckon they were pretty clear about the lack of compensation part :).
@Deleted User Lol yeah that's why in 94 they went with willing buyer willing seller
They have always been communists.. they pretended to be liberals during the end aparthied movement overseas
Russia was backing them all the way
@Deleted User what do you think about the farmers?
You should watch "tainted heroes"
too far gone
@Rox They only became Communist when Madiba took over...before then mostly they wanted that same type of votes coloureds had...where they could elect white people to represent them in parliament
Do you think we should just go?
They went and trained in russia and used AK47s.. from russia
They were commie way before that, you cant deny a commie influence when they were being trained by commie russians before Mandela took presidency
They have never denied it
@Darkseid That was pragmatism ... it was called the "sunset clauses" ... negotiations broke down between the NP and ANC and of all improbable people it was Joe Slovo of the SACP who suggested that there would be no wholesale nationalization as above ... so the blacks would get the political power and whites would retain their economic power ... ANC gambled that they could use the state power like the Nats did to empower their voter base i.e BEE.
On the land issue there current clause in our 94 constitution do allow for EWC ... the govt did use it in very isolated cases when there was deadlock over value of land claims ... now the EFF has managed to drive it the forefront of politics.
a large part of their support is still the SACP
I thought everyone knew they were the Red Menace already?
@Rox The party started in 1912... Communism was introduced to the world post WW2...would be really hard for the Anc to always have been Communist before they even knew what it was
How do you see this all playing out @Deleted User
@Rox SACP these days are a bunch of Gucci commies ... how can they call themselves that if they live in Sandton and drive BMW or Audi's ???.
All Communists are fundamentally hypocrites
Because all humans are selfish
yup, communist goes against our nature
*communism
@spursfan82 There's an edit bru
haha, I knew that. Just a little tired.
@spursfan82 Communism goes against European nature, fits African tribalism quite well
They reject religion because Marx believed it made the masses numb to their "subjugation"
@Rox I reckon that the govt - Agri-SA and the TAU and those organizations representing black emerging farmers are currently talking will make some sort of deal where most likely there will be SOME EWC but the majority of farmers will not be really affected.
I'm sure you guys are familiar with the Chinese takeover theory?
@Darkseid European nature .... what the hell .. seem to recall this bit in some well beloved religious text of the same Europeans.
All the believers were together and had everything in common.
They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.
Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts
@Deleted User Modern western values, ideologies change over time...Africa's didn't, Africa still believes a chief should own everything and his tribe should just live off his land hence why Africa deep throats the idea of communism