They still didn't own any land

like no point in a water-powered factory when you only sell to a small local market, but when you sell to tens of thousands of people then mechanisation is economically viable

so what if they didn't own land?

the "private" farmers with enclosure was far more efficient creating way more food with less workers breaking the malthusian trap and creating modern civilisation

human civilisation was basically stagnant for the previous 10,000 years

and it could have continued that way for another 10,000 even

serfdom is actually the final redpill

real change always happens from the ground up

and as for your meme

that's ridiculous as serfdom was miserable, and you can see some people today living similar lives who by their mid 20s look like old people with broken backs, malnutrition and so on

the real meme of that is hunter gatherer vs agricultural cuck

humans living as hunter gatherers as they evolved for is how humans truly should live where they eat healthy varied diets, live in close communal tribes and so on

serfdom was just a far worse version of all the problems present in modern industrial civilisation

and was like living in sierra fuckning leone lol

the hunter gatherer lifestyle wasn't sustainable

have you seen the homicide rates of english villages?

they hunted the megafauna to extinction

"wasn't sustainable"? humans lived in it for hundreds of thousands of years

well there was a point where humans advanced too much

your average small english farming community in the high middle ages had the homicide rates of like african warzones today

funfact: they never hunted the megafauna to extinction in africa

they didn't reach that point

natural resolves itself, if there are too many humans then some will die off

There was a critical mass where people got too good at hunting to where they had to settle down and grow food.

to supplement themselves

well now you're just discussing the supposed inevitability of settled agriculture, but we're not discussing that it happened and will happen but are discussing recognising that it sucks balls

GG @WP, you just advanced to level 5!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TkFmmdmk50

get redpilled

Animal husbandry allowed people to get the same benefits as hunting while living in a settled lifestyle

they just had too many babies and lived to close to animals

right but what point are you making?

that serfdom with animal husbandry is based and redpilled

but they lived miserable lives

not really

humans live more fulfilling lives as nomads and hunter gatherers

or whatever comes of industrial civilisation

what do you mean by "not really"? malnutrition, regular famines, oppression - we're talking about a people who repeatedly rose up and fought for freedom even though they knew they had previously been crushed

they didn't really rise up that much

it was mostly just nobles that fought other nobles for control over them

we can see the physical effects too from looking at skulls where they all had fucked up teeth. the superior chad jaws of hunter gatherers is testament to the true natural lifestyle man is made for