Message from @WP

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2019-09-19 01:21:23 UTC  

this goes way back, like hundred years war peasants got very rich from hundred years war and were paid very high salaries

2019-09-19 01:21:34 UTC  

After the british conquered french canada, they had to deploy lots of troops in america to defend it.

2019-09-19 01:21:34 UTC  

GG @Pelth, you just advanced to level 9!

2019-09-19 01:21:49 UTC  

?av @WP

2019-09-19 01:21:50 UTC  

2019-09-19 01:21:50 UTC  

by around 1500 serfdom had virtually disappeared

2019-09-19 01:22:06 UTC  

not really, it just evolved into wage cuckery

2019-09-19 01:22:11 UTC  

latest season's swimwear collection fyi

2019-09-19 01:22:17 UTC  

Lmao

2019-09-19 01:22:24 UTC  

are you defending serfdom?

2019-09-19 01:22:35 UTC  

serfdom wasn't so bad tbh

2019-09-19 01:22:37 UTC  

the collapse of serfdom in england is the catalyst for creation of modern civilisation

2019-09-19 01:22:54 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/542037236053442561/624052761390088202/j5ioaf7hssn11.png

2019-09-19 01:23:24 UTC  

it drove the late middle ages urbanisation and most of the population going into towns becoming competing tradesmen, within 2 centuries population went from something aorund 10% literate to 90% literate

2019-09-19 01:23:41 UTC  

huge tax revenues, huge infrastructure spending, this all creating economic viability of mechanisation

2019-09-19 01:23:54 UTC  

They still didn't own any land

2019-09-19 01:24:11 UTC  

like no point in a water-powered factory when you only sell to a small local market, but when you sell to tens of thousands of people then mechanisation is economically viable

2019-09-19 01:24:24 UTC  

so what if they didn't own land?

2019-09-19 01:24:49 UTC  

the "private" farmers with enclosure was far more efficient creating way more food with less workers breaking the malthusian trap and creating modern civilisation

2019-09-19 01:24:57 UTC  

human civilisation was basically stagnant for the previous 10,000 years

2019-09-19 01:25:05 UTC  

and it could have continued that way for another 10,000 even

2019-09-19 01:25:12 UTC  

serfdom is actually the final redpill

2019-09-19 01:25:16 UTC  

real change always happens from the ground up

2019-09-19 01:25:19 UTC  

and as for your meme

2019-09-19 01:25:49 UTC  

that's ridiculous as serfdom was miserable, and you can see some people today living similar lives who by their mid 20s look like old people with broken backs, malnutrition and so on

2019-09-19 01:26:03 UTC  

the real meme of that is hunter gatherer vs agricultural cuck

2019-09-19 01:26:33 UTC  

humans living as hunter gatherers as they evolved for is how humans truly should live where they eat healthy varied diets, live in close communal tribes and so on

2019-09-19 01:26:50 UTC  

serfdom was just a far worse version of all the problems present in modern industrial civilisation

2019-09-19 01:26:57 UTC  

and was like living in sierra fuckning leone lol

2019-09-19 01:27:02 UTC  

the hunter gatherer lifestyle wasn't sustainable

2019-09-19 01:27:03 UTC  

have you seen the homicide rates of english villages?

2019-09-19 01:27:11 UTC  

they hunted the megafauna to extinction

2019-09-19 01:27:16 UTC  

"wasn't sustainable"? humans lived in it for hundreds of thousands of years

2019-09-19 01:27:45 UTC  

well there was a point where humans advanced too much

2019-09-19 01:28:01 UTC  

your average small english farming community in the high middle ages had the homicide rates of like african warzones today

2019-09-19 01:28:10 UTC  

funfact: they never hunted the megafauna to extinction in africa

2019-09-19 01:28:14 UTC  

they didn't reach that point

2019-09-19 01:28:46 UTC  

natural resolves itself, if there are too many humans then some will die off

2019-09-19 01:29:23 UTC  

There was a critical mass where people got too good at hunting to where they had to settle down and grow food.

2019-09-19 01:29:47 UTC  

to supplement themselves

2019-09-19 01:30:03 UTC  

well now you're just discussing the supposed inevitability of settled agriculture, but we're not discussing that it happened and will happen but are discussing recognising that it sucks balls