Message from @Beemann
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i shall report my results back
For the record, when I said hunters, I meant it much more broadly. I would count a soldier as a hunter. One of humans but a hunter none the less. So the gear came from the people who designed it to fit their need, then the wannabe hunters come and use it because it looks cool. "Look at me, I can totally do all the things these other people do!"
I am curious about the use of language, but I don't want to dicktate people how to use it
As for the left wordbending: they have nothing to offer when it comes to the official language
Official language exists for a reason and is backed with actual power and money, because people need to make deals that have no room for cheeky business and wordplay
Hence I am not too worried about it
the problem with language is that it is always changing
strictly enforcing rules kills it and prevents it from growing to describe new ideas or connections we have made
its why we made language, or one of the reasons, to take these thoughts and convey them to other people
and we have found many ways to do so
but you also cannot just make up your own stuff, at least not without explaining it.
because then people will not understand you
and you will be isolated
Languages do evolve, thus we need language reforms now and then
But we also need the "standard" language to conduct business without misunderstanding
reporting back.... yeah its not that lefty, lol was jsut conservatives that ken burns is a left himself XD
the vietnam war
Language needs to evolve for utility. When you reduce utility (figuratively using literally) you are not growing the language
You are actually making it harder to communicate certain ideas
languages simultaneously increase and decrease in simplicity in different areas
Sure, but you need to be cognizant of where that's happening and why, or you might find your future a little doubleplus ungood comrade
languages have generally evolved very organically, if something would ruin the language it simply won't catch on
unless you force it
Have is not an assurance of will
although sometimes you do end up with tibetan, and nobody ever wants their language to turn into tibetan
given the amount of time languages have been evolving, i can confidently say we will not fuck up any language unless we start manually fucking with it
Right, and that's the danger I'm rather specifically referring to
so, manually fucking with language??
Do you remember the "old" definition of racism?
oh yeah, the trend of trying to intentionally redefine words is certainly very very bad
Yes, and to that extent I think keeping terminology in the clear is important
sorry, i jumped in in the middle and, given your figuratively/literally example thought you were talking about the excessive use of hyperbole in english, not the malicious redefining of words
No I just mean redefining at either the loss of utility wholesale, or for partisan purposes
I honestly don't think we gain anything by losing the word literally to emphasis, but it was just an example of how utility can be lost
well, for the literally example, it will eventually reach the point where literally and figuratively will be synonyms and we will be using a new word that means something similar enough to the current definition of literally
and then at some point either literally or figuratively will probably fall out of use
language is a big dumb ride that usually doesn't actually go anywhere lol
I think it *can* go somewhere
It just goes there occasionally, and in spite of the userbase
yeah, it takes an absurd amount of time though. most changes are just going in circles
There's also organic changes in a word that are not so good.
Like the continual redefinition of violence to where now words are violence