Message from @Grenade123

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2018-07-20 13:49:02 UTC  

Yea, makes sense. It's trivial but I've always wondered that.

2018-07-20 13:51:42 UTC  

Oh I left out the hunters

2018-07-20 13:51:57 UTC  

They are in that cycle too. It is a triangle

2018-07-20 13:52:38 UTC  

Snipers of WW2 from USA were "competition hunters" that shot animals at great distances

2018-07-20 13:53:19 UTC  

Before them the concept of sniping as such was not that established in the firearm warfare

2018-07-20 13:55:39 UTC  

And fun fact: sniping comes from trying to hunt snipes (a type of bird, that is small and is a very agile flier that can change directions rapidly) from around 1770

2018-07-20 13:57:09 UTC  

It was an endeering term for an especially capable sharpshooter later on, and then became a term for a long-distance precision marksman (before that it pretty much meant a short range quick-draw skill)

2018-07-20 13:58:30 UTC  

i mean tbh its still used in that old way nowadays too in vidya games

2018-07-20 13:58:44 UTC  

ie "nice snipe" when u land a skillshot or just kill someone

2018-07-20 14:11:35 UTC  

I think I saw the snipe origin on a History channel show once.

2018-07-20 14:14:09 UTC  

Technically the official term is a "precision long range marksman" for the scoped warriors

2018-07-20 14:14:57 UTC  

So technically you can still call the quick-draw hard precision shots "snipes"

2018-07-20 14:16:17 UTC  

If anything particularly challenging skeet shooting competitions desreve the term "sniping" the most if we'd be the etymological nazis

2018-07-20 14:16:41 UTC  

But I digress, I don't particularly care how people prefer to utilise language

2018-07-20 14:21:04 UTC  

XD Etymological Nasis the best kind of nazis

2018-07-20 14:25:34 UTC  

I do appreciate people that know why "defence" has a "c" in it

2018-07-20 14:26:27 UTC  

But then again etymology is akin to a short-term cultural memory. People forget the derivative connotation in like two generations and treat a word as a standalone

2018-07-20 15:20:21 UTC  

>But I digress, I don't particularly care how people prefer to utilize language
You should.

2018-07-20 16:01:35 UTC  

finally getting to watchign that ken burns vietnam doc lol heard alot about how some rightys were butthurt about how much of a liberal bias it has lol

2018-07-20 16:01:40 UTC  

i shall report my results back

2018-07-20 16:06:14 UTC  

For the record, when I said hunters, I meant it much more broadly. I would count a soldier as a hunter. One of humans but a hunter none the less. So the gear came from the people who designed it to fit their need, then the wannabe hunters come and use it because it looks cool. "Look at me, I can totally do all the things these other people do!"

2018-07-20 19:28:42 UTC  

I am curious about the use of language, but I don't want to dicktate people how to use it

2018-07-20 19:29:40 UTC  

As for the left wordbending: they have nothing to offer when it comes to the official language

2018-07-20 19:30:33 UTC  

Official language exists for a reason and is backed with actual power and money, because people need to make deals that have no room for cheeky business and wordplay

2018-07-20 19:30:52 UTC  

Hence I am not too worried about it

2018-07-20 19:35:36 UTC  

the problem with language is that it is always changing

2018-07-20 19:36:11 UTC  

strictly enforcing rules kills it and prevents it from growing to describe new ideas or connections we have made

2018-07-20 19:36:32 UTC  

its why we made language, or one of the reasons, to take these thoughts and convey them to other people

2018-07-20 19:36:40 UTC  

and we have found many ways to do so

2018-07-20 19:36:57 UTC  

but you also cannot just make up your own stuff, at least not without explaining it.

2018-07-20 19:37:06 UTC  

because then people will not understand you

2018-07-20 19:37:11 UTC  

and you will be isolated

2018-07-20 19:42:38 UTC  

Languages do evolve, thus we need language reforms now and then

2018-07-20 19:43:02 UTC  

But we also need the "standard" language to conduct business without misunderstanding

2018-07-20 21:14:03 UTC  

reporting back.... yeah its not that lefty, lol was jsut conservatives that ken burns is a left himself XD

2018-07-20 21:14:14 UTC  

the vietnam war

2018-07-20 22:54:57 UTC  

Language needs to evolve for utility. When you reduce utility (figuratively using literally) you are not growing the language

2018-07-20 22:56:04 UTC  

You are actually making it harder to communicate certain ideas

2018-07-20 23:02:16 UTC  

languages simultaneously increase and decrease in simplicity in different areas

2018-07-20 23:03:21 UTC  

Sure, but you need to be cognizant of where that's happening and why, or you might find your future a little doubleplus ungood comrade

2018-07-20 23:04:45 UTC  

languages have generally evolved very organically, if something would ruin the language it simply won't catch on