Message from @Stefan Payne

Discord ID: 523639651362275352


2018-12-15 07:51:31 UTC  

hallelujah dads and mommies, cowboys, rebels, yanks and commies, buy you're self some real red-blooded fun. If you want to make the grade, you've gotta have a hand grenade, and a full automatic G.I gun.

2018-12-15 11:11:16 UTC  

Daily reminder that you are allowed to own fighter jets. See the comment about Larry Ellison at the bottom of the article.

https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/business/Googles_Newest_Plane_Is_A_Fighter_Jet_.html

2018-12-15 11:26:11 UTC  

That's like saying you can own tanks but the tank cannon has to be deactivated

2018-12-15 12:18:16 UTC  

**Forgotten Weapons** Uploaded a new youtube video!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNB_2hih31I

2018-12-15 19:05:45 UTC  

Ooo, neat

2018-12-15 20:24:53 UTC  

How much would you guys give for a day with gun Jesus

2018-12-15 20:49:59 UTC  

Well, its just a day, ~12h flight or so, overnight, so for me its somewhere in the 5k region or so.

2018-12-15 21:41:58 UTC  

My ammunition arrived. 😁

2018-12-15 21:42:02 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467577750325297162/523615748439146523/image0.jpg

2018-12-15 21:42:06 UTC  

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/467577750325297162/523615762175492115/image0.jpg

2018-12-15 21:50:21 UTC  

Can't use wolf ammo at my local range

2018-12-15 21:57:03 UTC  

Why, the steel?

2018-12-15 21:57:38 UTC  

yeah

2018-12-15 22:00:43 UTC  

Indoor ranges ban steel-cases ammo why?

2018-12-15 22:07:44 UTC  

They said its a possible fire risk.

2018-12-15 22:08:33 UTC  

I would have to assume it would have to do with the materials they use in the construction of the indoor ranges, or they are lying for some unknown reason

2018-12-15 22:39:29 UTC  

NRA Support for red flag laws (Extreme Risk Protection Orders):

Something I am not clear about with Extreme Risk Protection Orders (Red Flag Laws). How's depriving someone of their property without a trial and conviction first for due process? How exactly do judges "Temporarily" take someones guns before it "becomes a tragedy?" Does the police department send clowns with balloons and candy to their house graciously asking for them back, or a swat team in full gear with a search warrant giving them the force of law to rummage through your house?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/03/19/under-pressure-nra-voices-support-gun-violence-restraining-orders/433716002/
https://youtu.be/m14GPQlTogo?t=195

2018-12-15 22:52:07 UTC  

@taekahn i always thought it was ricochets. steel is hard and tends to do that

2018-12-15 22:52:55 UTC  

*shrug* i only know what i was told by the guy at the desk.

2018-12-15 23:16:40 UTC  

```My ammunition arrived. :grin:```
Condolences....

2018-12-15 23:17:01 UTC  

```Indoor ranges ban steel-cases ammo why?```
Because they are mostly garbage and cause Malfunctions.

2018-12-15 23:17:28 UTC  

Having a stuck live round in your gun in a closed enviroment is a bad thing, wich is why they might have banned steel case ammo.

2018-12-15 23:17:40 UTC  

because YOU might shoot someone or even yourself.

2018-12-15 23:17:47 UTC  

You don't have much safe directions...

2018-12-15 23:18:37 UTC  

@Miss Direction
Watch that, its long but you see why:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DabLcqavXJ0

2018-12-16 00:33:51 UTC  

Steel cased isnt garbage lol

2018-12-16 00:34:25 UTC  

Wouldn't the rifling have to be significantly stronger than the steel or risk damage?

2018-12-16 00:34:53 UTC  

I only shoot steel cased through my mosin and it works fine, i've shot steel cased through ARs and AKs and it's worked fine there too

2018-12-16 00:35:56 UTC  

Yeah steel cased ammo is a bit harder on the barrel apparently, but you save a lot of money shooting steel cased if you don't reload your ammo, even taking barrel replacements into consideration for total cost

2018-12-16 00:36:19 UTC  

They are wrapped in copper.
Hold on, i'll snap a pick

2018-12-16 00:37:00 UTC  

The projectile is still made of lead and coated in copper but the casing itself is steel

2018-12-16 00:37:56 UTC  

Oh, I see. And the steel casing is bad for reloading?

2018-12-16 00:39:43 UTC  

Yeah it's hard to reuse the steel casing with common reloading tools

2018-12-16 00:39:43 UTC  

Well, they wouldn't let me shoot the *bullets* on the indoor range.
Nothing to do with the casings.

2018-12-16 00:40:56 UTC  

They said the wolf bullets themselves were a problem. That because of the metal in them, there was a fire risk.

2018-12-16 00:45:02 UTC  

https://youtu.be/x9xJfNutTXE?t=163
Guy talks really slow, might want 2x here.

2018-12-16 00:46:32 UTC  

```Steel cased isnt garbage lol```
I trust what Ian and Karl have to say more than your word.
And they say that Wolff Ammo is garbage

2018-12-16 00:49:16 UTC  

```Well, they wouldn't let me shoot the bullets on the indoor range.```
Yes, as I said, because the Ammo causes Issues and with those Issues it increases the danger for all people in the room if you don't deal with it the right way.
So I can understand that.

Just watch the Video, they try to shoot Wolff Ammo and they talk about it a bit in the Video as well. And also what happened to the Wolf Ammo.

2018-12-16 01:03:03 UTC  

Has nothing to do with the casing or a jam.
Watch the video i linked. Its exactly why *my* range, and *his* range won't allow them.
Because the actual bullets have steel in them.

2018-12-16 01:03:33 UTC  

Its also much shorter

2018-12-16 03:21:09 UTC  

I have steel cased for my rifle but it used the CETME system so they become a secondary shot unto themselves.