maybe I should make a pea shooter 22

that'd be fun

My primary worry irl has been

when we move to electrically controlled everything

Is the ATF going to classify all of it as "Easily converted to fully automatic"

because when you're literally autoloading with solenoids and gas, and a button is just controlling a brain box

there's really nothing stopping you from tapping in

Well until there is a major breakthrough that is functional/ practical for the everyday idiot we are stuck with what we have for the most part for a while

We're stuck fighting for AR15s

If you're doing away with the mechanical hammer in exchange for an electronic ignition, you're dependent on electronics anyway, would it be worthwhile to go the extra mile and do away with the whole gas operation and simply have electrical operation? What are some practical considerations/hurdles?

running out of battery and being unable to cycle the gun except manually for one

you would ideally have some way to draw a bit of power from the cartridges to drive the action

if not neccesarily via gas then something else

nobody likes needing two kinds of thing to make their gun work

the ammo

and then the other ammo

to make the first ammo work

maybe electromagnetically draw power from a coil along the bore of the barrel?

>shrug

then bullet passing through the coil induces current to drive the mechanism

i dunno how well that would work though

it would probably need to be a superconductor to generate enough power

e.g. motor rotating a wheel, wheel transfers motion to a piston (steam engine style), piston attaches to bolt

well yes but if the bolt is reciprocating back under power already then what is the electricity even doing for you

It wouldn't, the bolt is typically gas-operated, here you'd do away with the gas operation entirely

are we talking purely doing away with a firing pin? i dunno that building a steam engine style crank to charge things up is actually simpler than a mechanical firing pin

No

well i mean unless its delayed blowback, there is no such thing as the bolt moving except via some kind of gas operation

well wait okay maybe the unlocking could be electronic

Getting rid of the firing pin and using an electrical pulse for ignition (like a spark plug, even) is a very obvious go-to when you're going for something caseless

then the rest of the extraction is from the force of the casing being driven out of the barrel by gas force

There's a hunting rifle that does that, on the market

Electric ignition

so it electronically unlocks the bolt from the chamber instead of using gas to do that

and then the bolt goes back under residual gas pressure

that might actually be a fair bit simpler

wouldnt be nearly as fiddly to design either since you arent trying to magic correct bolt-unlock timing out of gas pressure and mechanical know-how

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electronic_firing
This is what I'm thinking.
If you want caseless memes, electronic firing makes sense and provides potential benefits despite making you need two types of "ammunition", the physical ammo and batteries.
So next step, then, was to go all electronic in the chambering process as well since you're using batteries anyway. That hybrid system you're proposing with an electronically unlocked bolt and residual gas pressure sounds even better, best of two worlds

God, the G11 was only in a hand full of games and most of them don't even seem good or are MP only.

and I wanted to use it in a game...

Fallout 2 has it, as well as a fictional Gatling in the same ammunition