Message from @QuakeIV

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2018-12-26 05:33:19 UTC  

just with electric clockwork

2018-12-26 05:33:36 UTC  

Hell I bet I could do it

2018-12-26 05:34:03 UTC  

it'd probably break after 100 rounds but I bet I could make something that'd work

2018-12-26 05:35:12 UTC  

I'd supercap it and use the gas system or pump to charge the cap via piezoelectric shit

2018-12-26 05:35:24 UTC  

and have support for just plugging cr123's in

2018-12-26 05:35:47 UTC  

burning nickel filaments is easy and not super duper high amp

2018-12-26 05:36:33 UTC  

The ammo would be hard but I don't think it'd be impossible

2018-12-26 05:36:51 UTC  

I'd probably just use nitrocellulose paper

2018-12-26 05:37:14 UTC  

there are some methods for soapifying the shit

2018-12-26 05:37:49 UTC  

The clockwork and levers could just be printed sintered metal where it'd be exposed to high temps

2018-12-26 05:38:15 UTC  

maybe I should make a pea shooter 22

2018-12-26 05:38:22 UTC  

that'd be fun

2018-12-26 05:38:51 UTC  

My primary worry irl has been

2018-12-26 05:39:00 UTC  

when we move to electrically controlled everything

2018-12-26 05:39:18 UTC  

Is the ATF going to classify all of it as "Easily converted to fully automatic"

2018-12-26 05:39:45 UTC  

because when you're literally autoloading with solenoids and gas, and a button is just controlling a brain box

2018-12-26 05:39:53 UTC  

there's really nothing stopping you from tapping in

2018-12-26 05:44:47 UTC  

Well until there is a major breakthrough that is functional/ practical for the everyday idiot we are stuck with what we have for the most part for a while

2018-12-26 06:36:55 UTC  

We're stuck fighting for AR15s

2018-12-26 06:37:13 UTC  

If you're doing away with the mechanical hammer in exchange for an electronic ignition, you're dependent on electronics anyway, would it be worthwhile to go the extra mile and do away with the whole gas operation and simply have electrical operation? What are some practical considerations/hurdles?

2018-12-26 06:40:31 UTC  

running out of battery and being unable to cycle the gun except manually for one

2018-12-26 06:40:45 UTC  

you would ideally have some way to draw a bit of power from the cartridges to drive the action

2018-12-26 06:40:51 UTC  

if not neccesarily via gas then something else

2018-12-26 06:41:04 UTC  

nobody likes needing two kinds of thing to make their gun work

2018-12-26 06:41:05 UTC  

the ammo

2018-12-26 06:41:07 UTC  

and then the other ammo

2018-12-26 06:41:09 UTC  

to make the first ammo work

2018-12-26 06:41:43 UTC  

maybe electromagnetically draw power from a coil along the bore of the barrel?

2018-12-26 06:41:44 UTC  

>shrug

2018-12-26 06:41:55 UTC  

then bullet passing through the coil induces current to drive the mechanism

2018-12-26 06:41:59 UTC  

i dunno how well that would work though

2018-12-26 06:42:08 UTC  

it would probably need to be a superconductor to generate enough power

2018-12-26 06:42:30 UTC  

e.g. motor rotating a wheel, wheel transfers motion to a piston (steam engine style), piston attaches to bolt

2018-12-26 06:43:00 UTC  

well yes but if the bolt is reciprocating back under power already then what is the electricity even doing for you

2018-12-26 06:43:48 UTC  

It wouldn't, the bolt is typically gas-operated, here you'd do away with the gas operation entirely

2018-12-26 06:43:53 UTC  

are we talking purely doing away with a firing pin? i dunno that building a steam engine style crank to charge things up is actually simpler than a mechanical firing pin

2018-12-26 06:44:11 UTC  

No

2018-12-26 06:44:35 UTC  

well i mean unless its delayed blowback, there is no such thing as the bolt moving except via some kind of gas operation

2018-12-26 06:45:08 UTC  

well wait okay maybe the unlocking could be electronic

2018-12-26 06:45:14 UTC  

Getting rid of the firing pin and using an electrical pulse for ignition (like a spark plug, even) is a very obvious go-to when you're going for something caseless

2018-12-26 06:45:22 UTC  

then the rest of the extraction is from the force of the casing being driven out of the barrel by gas force