Message from @OliveBlanc
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does that count
I have a friend who wants a home defense gun
Can't get a handgun or anything with >5 round capacity
I suggested a Mossberg
He's now worried about kick
So what's the worst kicking thing I can reccomend to him?
(He also took my "mossberg 590" suggestion and went to ask about getting a burgess folding shotgun as his first gun
shotgun, 20 gauge buck shot would be fine.
Auto-loading Shotgun in 20 gauge.
https://www.cabelas.com/product/Stoeger-Model-Semiautomatic-Shotguns/1229634.uts?avad=194130_d14f5b2f9&WT.mc_id=al155690&Subid1=SID&subacctid=155690&subacctname=155690&adname=Custom+Link&adtype=cl&adid=NA&utm_medium=AFF&utm_source=155690&rid=12&WT.tsrc=AFF
Something like this, but I believe there are cheaper models
~~ar-15 with frangible ammunition still reigns supreme in my mind~~
yeah well he's restricted to 5 rounds
when dealing with mag cap limits you might as well go with whatever delivers the most effective damage per shot while still being able to handle the recoil
It depends more on whether it's just a mag limit or an AWB.
I'd take a changeable magazine AR-15 with 5 rounds over a gate load shotgun
@Panzers und Pasta just get a black powder revolver
likely to be treated as an antique and shoots good enough
Muzzle loader not just black powder.
@Khanclansith Just make sure to get a reproduction and not the antique
Modern metals are far more tolerant to user errors
I know that, but I am letting people know that the NFA doesn't call "Muzzle Loaders" firearms, not Black Powder shooters. There are Black Powder cased ammo that are still "Firearms" legally speakiing
9mm major would be really cool
but I gotta go weaker
I want to push a 147gr up just below 1200
cooking up some shit there nigga
gonna make the hottest 9x19 in the world
ncjrs.gov isn't responding for me
I am confuse
well whatever
1200 is seeming like proof loads based on quickload unless there's a magical powder of magic
these cartridge snobs on arfcom are great
Their preferred bullet is always the best
where is there a 5 round limit
canada?
home defense in canada is gonna be rough
nowhere afaik
They're trying to push it out in oregon but it'll get shot down by the courts if it gets signed
Update – February 8, 2019, – The petition for an en banc hearing in Young v. Hawaii was granted. Oral argument will take place in San Francisco the week of March 25, 2019.