im good and i am with guns

does that count

I have a friend who wants a home defense gun

Can't get a handgun or anything with >5 round capacity

I suggested a Mossberg

He's now worried about kick

So what's the worst kicking thing I can reccomend to him?

(He also took my "mossberg 590" suggestion and went to ask about getting a burgess folding shotgun as his first gun

shotgun, 20 gauge buck shot would be fine.

Auto-loading Shotgun in 20 gauge.
https://www.cabelas.com/product/Stoeger-Model-Semiautomatic-Shotguns/1229634.uts?avad=194130_d14f5b2f9&WT.mc_id=al155690&Subid1=SID&subacctid=155690&subacctname=155690&adname=Custom+Link&adtype=cl&adid=NA&utm_medium=AFF&utm_source=155690&rid=12&WT.tsrc=AFF
Something like this, but I believe there are cheaper models

~~ar-15 with frangible ammunition still reigns supreme in my mind~~

yeah well he's restricted to 5 rounds

when dealing with mag cap limits you might as well go with whatever delivers the most effective damage per shot while still being able to handle the recoil

It depends more on whether it's just a mag limit or an AWB.
I'd take a changeable magazine AR-15 with 5 rounds over a gate load shotgun

@Panzers und Pasta just get a black powder revolver

likely to be treated as an antique and shoots good enough

Muzzle loader not just black powder.

@Khanclansith Just make sure to get a reproduction and not the antique

Modern metals are far more tolerant to user errors

I know that, but I am letting people know that the NFA doesn't call "Muzzle Loaders" firearms, not Black Powder shooters. There are Black Powder cased ammo that are still "Firearms" legally speakiing

I gotta load a bunch of +P+

9mm major would be really cool

but I gotta go weaker

I want to push a 147gr up just below 1200

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AoFxSBbiVJM

cooking up some shit there nigga

gonna make the hottest 9x19 in the world

ncjrs.gov isn't responding for me

I am confuse

well whatever

1200 is seeming like proof loads based on quickload unless there's a magical powder of magic

these cartridge snobs on arfcom are great

Their preferred bullet is always the best

where is there a 5 round limit

canada?

home defense in canada is gonna be rough

nowhere afaik

They're trying to push it out in oregon but it'll get shot down by the courts if it gets signed