Message from @velvitonator

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2018-10-24 04:01:39 UTC  

That seems pretty extreme.

2018-10-24 04:02:16 UTC  

As far as I can tell, he doesn't really have a theory of anything like rights

2018-10-24 04:02:25 UTC  

It seems more about survival/propagation

2018-10-24 04:02:37 UTC  

I mean, the whole Hispanic "race" is just mixed native/European

2018-10-24 04:03:18 UTC  

He might think they can have their own state or something, but that would get real complicated real fast

2018-10-24 04:03:31 UTC  

Yep.

2018-10-24 04:03:44 UTC  

Richard Spencer makes not sense to me

2018-10-24 04:04:31 UTC  

I dunno, just doesn't seem like the most stable basis for national foundations.

2018-10-24 04:04:55 UTC  

Just carve out a geographical area and form a distinct culture like all the other prosperous modern nations.

2018-10-24 04:05:20 UTC  

I'm sure he'd then argue that race and culture are inextricably linked, and that's another hour of my time gone.

2018-10-24 04:05:30 UTC  

Thanks, hypothetical Richard Spencer. I could have used that hypothetical hour.

2018-10-24 04:05:37 UTC  

He seems pretty intelligent to me, but also very wrong

2018-10-24 04:05:50 UTC  

I was very disappointed in the debate with him and Sargon and a few other folks

2018-10-24 04:06:06 UTC  

My understanding was that it wasn't very productive, yes.

2018-10-24 04:06:14 UTC  

They pretty much just called him names and never really addressed the substance of his point

2018-10-24 04:06:22 UTC  

Which kinda made him look like the smarter one

2018-10-24 04:07:04 UTC  

And he probably actually is, to be honest

2018-10-24 04:07:16 UTC  

But his particular points weren't even...that hard to answer

2018-10-24 04:07:54 UTC  

It just kinda felt like Sargon and friends had never really considered that e.g. people in power have a degree of impunity that regular citizens don't enjoy, generally speaking

2018-10-24 04:08:02 UTC  

Spencer understood that

2018-10-24 04:08:17 UTC  

He just seemed to not think it's bad per se, or not be in the hands of the right people, or something

2018-10-24 04:08:48 UTC  

I never actually got to know where he was going with that, because everyone just got flustered and just rejected that outright for some reason

2018-10-24 04:10:28 UTC  

I sometimes think I should familiarize myself more with Spencer's thought, as a "know-thy-enemy" exercise, but understanding the people that pose _serious_ threats drains me enough as it is

2018-10-24 04:11:04 UTC  

Yeah, it's pretty clear that Richard Spencer's movement is not going anywhere in the near future.

2018-10-24 04:12:16 UTC  

That's the biggest thing about the Spooky Alt-Right

2018-10-24 04:12:43 UTC  

Once they became openly racist, pretty much everyone, even those with sympathies for some goals/policies, ran away screaming

2018-10-24 04:13:35 UTC  

There are probably internet fetish subniches with more political influence

2018-10-24 04:17:06 UTC  

Shame that doesn't work for the mainstream left.

2018-10-24 04:20:57 UTC  

ohh trust me

2018-10-24 04:21:06 UTC  

people debating spencer is the best thing spencer has going for him

2018-10-24 04:21:13 UTC  

mainly because people just call him racist

2018-10-24 04:21:16 UTC  

or try to say thats racist

2018-10-24 04:21:40 UTC  

and are too emotional to play devils advocate

2018-10-24 04:22:07 UTC  

its really quite sad

2018-10-24 04:22:29 UTC  

you aren't winning any moral battles with richard spencer

2018-10-24 04:23:07 UTC  

but he's an odd beast in that he appears to be intellect but actually appeals to emotion to gain support

2018-10-24 04:23:36 UTC  

he stays calm and collected, but tucks at victimhood and random anti capitalist/consumerist shit

2018-10-24 04:24:16 UTC  

so basically he appeals to liberal personality types, but sounds well thought out

2018-10-24 04:24:26 UTC  

and to those types, they just take his word for it because it sounds good

2018-10-24 04:24:36 UTC  

just like they did when obama talked and it sounded nice

2018-10-24 07:34:47 UTC  

that one MRA lady is like that