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skelevore

Like theres no skin there.

shall I post more to help uncover this mystery?

Also, I have the stomach flu so Id rather not imagine the discomfort.

I think the weakness of civic nationalism is that it is weak to outside cultural influences, which is ironically supposed to be what it's strength is. I prefer the nationalist state to an ethnostate, don't get me wrong, but we do have to acknowledge the flaws in civic nationalism.

elaborate.

"weak to outside cultural influences" this 'weakness' could be defined two different ways depending on which side you're on.

Well, for instance, this issue Europe has with mass migration. The idea behind civic nationalism is that anyone coming into the country in question adopts it's values and traditions, or at least celebrates them, but what do you do with large groups of people coming into your country that won't 'play ball', so to speak? Civic nationalism is great, as long as everyone agrees to the conditions of it, but when large groups of people are coming into your country that don't agree to these conditions, I think eventually it will dissolve the state over time.

this is true

Agreed mostly

but mass immigration isn't a product of civic nationalism

And I admit, this is mostly an issue with mass uncontrolled migration in the first place, more than anything else.

I think I was just pointing out that this wouldn't happen in an ethnostate, although it does come with it's own problems, yeah.

weren't you a wolf before

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wat

Geh, yes, indeed I was.

otherkin

Nid, I was simply bored.

It's one point on which me and an ethnonat agree

But furthermore it's a counterpoint to your statement, Civic Nationalism would not allow for mass immigration

One issue with an ethnostate, especially when it comes to smaller countries, are concerns of genetic diversity.

In much the same way an ethnonat would defend teh core of their race

Not inherently, I suppose, but it is what is being allowed right now by many western countries.

a civic nationalist would defend the core of their nation

Nationalism as a whole has been given a dirty name over the past couple of decades, which I think is one of the core problems, yeah.

Globalism is the opponent of nationalism, and the dominant force.

I think globalism, like communism, is an eventuality, but we're just not there yet or even anywhere close to it.

lel

I came in the middle of the conversation, but, are you serious?

Yes.

from my cold dead hands

Communism simply does not work for humans.

It would have to be forced

I think a globalist structure COULD exist with nations remaining independent.

There will come a point where our quality of life will be so great that we won't even need money, but again, this is *way* into the future.

But any true globalism would be too authoritarian, or it would not function.

Another point Ethnonats get is that, western society can't go into a non-western nation and fix that nation.