Message from @RyeNorth
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wat
Geh, yes, indeed I was.
otherkin
Nid, I was simply bored.
It's one point on which me and an ethnonat agree
But furthermore it's a counterpoint to your statement, Civic Nationalism would not allow for mass immigration
One issue with an ethnostate, especially when it comes to smaller countries, are concerns of genetic diversity.
In much the same way an ethnonat would defend teh core of their race
Not inherently, I suppose, but it is what is being allowed right now by many western countries.
a civic nationalist would defend the core of their nation
Nationalism as a whole has been given a dirty name over the past couple of decades, which I think is one of the core problems, yeah.
Globalism is the opponent of nationalism, and the dominant force.
I think globalism, like communism, is an eventuality, but we're just not there yet or even anywhere close to it.
lel
I came in the middle of the conversation, but, are you serious?
Yes.
from my cold dead hands
Communism simply does not work for humans.
It would have to be forced
There will come a point where our quality of life will be so great that we won't even need money, but again, this is *way* into the future.
But any true globalism would be too authoritarian, or it would not function.
Another point Ethnonats get is that, western society can't go into a non-western nation and fix that nation.
That nation has to change from within.
^ ^ ^
It's the whole "giving a man a fish vs teaching a man to fish" thing.
Western Society developed where it did, I would challenge, not as a result of race, but as a result of trade.
>There will come a point where our quality of life will be so great that we won't even need money, but again, this is way into the future.
If there is no money, there will be no freedom
I'm inclined to agree.
if you are implying a world without freedom, it is possible
If we fall to a one world government
Are the two really so intrinsically linked?
I just don't see it lasting very long
there would be no competition.
Either that, or we'd fall to intense corporatism, and that's pretty scary, too.
(not that we don't already have that)
Nations should be able to compete.
Hell, I think the states in the US should be more in competition with one another
That's how the best ideas come forward.
all hail the free market