Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-02-14 01:54:04 UTC  

wat

2018-02-14 01:54:09 UTC  

Geh, yes, indeed I was.

2018-02-14 01:54:23 UTC  

otherkin

2018-02-14 01:54:53 UTC  

Nid, I was simply bored.

2018-02-14 01:55:22 UTC  

It's one point on which me and an ethnonat agree

2018-02-14 01:56:18 UTC  

But furthermore it's a counterpoint to your statement, Civic Nationalism would not allow for mass immigration

2018-02-14 01:56:18 UTC  

One issue with an ethnostate, especially when it comes to smaller countries, are concerns of genetic diversity.

2018-02-14 01:56:42 UTC  

In much the same way an ethnonat would defend teh core of their race

2018-02-14 01:56:48 UTC  

Not inherently, I suppose, but it is what is being allowed right now by many western countries.

2018-02-14 01:56:49 UTC  

a civic nationalist would defend the core of their nation

2018-02-14 01:57:23 UTC  

Nationalism as a whole has been given a dirty name over the past couple of decades, which I think is one of the core problems, yeah.

2018-02-14 01:57:53 UTC  

Globalism is the opponent of nationalism, and the dominant force.

2018-02-14 01:58:30 UTC  

I think globalism, like communism, is an eventuality, but we're just not there yet or even anywhere close to it.

2018-02-14 01:58:44 UTC  

lel

2018-02-14 01:59:06 UTC  

I came in the middle of the conversation, but, are you serious?

2018-02-14 01:59:12 UTC  

Yes.

2018-02-14 01:59:21 UTC  

from my cold dead hands

2018-02-14 01:59:23 UTC  

Communism simply does not work for humans.

2018-02-14 01:59:36 UTC  

It would have to be forced

2018-02-14 01:59:38 UTC  

I think a globalist structure COULD exist with nations remaining independent.

2018-02-14 01:59:42 UTC  

There will come a point where our quality of life will be so great that we won't even need money, but again, this is *way* into the future.

2018-02-14 01:59:54 UTC  

But any true globalism would be too authoritarian, or it would not function.

2018-02-14 02:00:27 UTC  

Another point Ethnonats get is that, western society can't go into a non-western nation and fix that nation.

2018-02-14 02:00:43 UTC  

That nation has to change from within.

2018-02-14 02:00:50 UTC  

^ ^ ^

2018-02-14 02:01:06 UTC  

It's the whole "giving a man a fish vs teaching a man to fish" thing.

2018-02-14 02:01:07 UTC  

Western Society developed where it did, I would challenge, not as a result of race, but as a result of trade.

2018-02-14 02:01:38 UTC  

>There will come a point where our quality of life will be so great that we won't even need money, but again, this is way into the future.
If there is no money, there will be no freedom

2018-02-14 02:02:01 UTC  

I'm inclined to agree.

2018-02-14 02:02:04 UTC  

if you are implying a world without freedom, it is possible

2018-02-14 02:02:16 UTC  

If we fall to a one world government

2018-02-14 02:02:20 UTC  

Are the two really so intrinsically linked?

2018-02-14 02:02:20 UTC  

I just don't see it lasting very long

2018-02-14 02:02:21 UTC  

there would be no competition.

2018-02-14 02:02:39 UTC  

Either that, or we'd fall to intense corporatism, and that's pretty scary, too.

2018-02-14 02:02:46 UTC  

(not that we don't already have that)

2018-02-14 02:03:19 UTC  

Nations should be able to compete.

2018-02-14 02:03:34 UTC  

Hell, I think the states in the US should be more in competition with one another

2018-02-14 02:03:44 UTC  

That's how the best ideas come forward.

2018-02-14 02:03:57 UTC  

all hail the free market