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how do you know where they were coming from?
I think it's a safe bet if they only speak spanish, look latino, and don't have any legal documentation and are here illegally in the first place.
spain?
..you do know that there are vast differences between Spain and Mexico, right? Even Mexican "Spanish" is not even 'proper' Spanish anymore.
i do know that... can you prove it?
Here e go with the runaround again.
"You don't have the perfect solution that can account for every little thing, therefore it is invalid."
and if you don't, why would mexico take them?
Because they're already mexican citizens.
are they? why would mexico not just say otherwise?
Then we make Mexico take them back.
I ask, what is the point of immigration laws, then, if you just let people come in by the millions and do nothing about it?
"Oh well, they're here anyway."
Why even have an immigration policy?
That's just open borders.
you have to account for people that do not cooperate, otherwise no one will cooperate
that statement is quite a bit different than calling for open borders 😉
Then they should be made to leave. The law should be enforced in the same way that any law is enforced.
It's still open borders in function.
The effect is the same.
sure, but you need a way to properly enforce it and that has to take into account that some people will not give you the information what country they are coming from.
hey mexico, take this venezuelan or we make you is not really helpful 😉
It would be in their interest to make sure that the person is from Venezuelan then, wouldn't it?
There's not going to be a perfect/clean solution to this. The only way for this to end perfectly is if we enforced immigration law in the first place and just not let them come here illegally.
It will be messy.
That's just life.
it would be in their interest not have the US try and send Venezuelans to their country in the first place 😉
you HAVE to rely on others when it comes to immigration, there is no way around it
So because some outliers and of some people that won't cooperate, we shouldn't enforce immigration policy?
no. you should find a way to account for the outliers
Frankly, I myself personally don't care, since again they're here illegally in the first place.
preferably one that does not include executions 😄
If they get lost in the system, that's the risk *they* took in coming here illegally.
"You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here."
If they want to get lost/stranded in some other country they know nothing of because they don't want to cooperate, that's on them.
the point is that you need to know where you can send them, which includes the information where they came from and/or a country that is willing to take them
They got here on their own well enough, they can make it back.
okay. how do you make sure of it? knock on their door and tell them to leave?
you should get a shithole country to take everyone you send there 😄
if that country is worse than where they originally came from they will at least tell you their origin 😄
You mean returning people to the country they illegally came into ours from? Yes.