Message from @Deller

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2018-03-24 13:37:18 UTC  

thats not to say that you must always be right, thats impossibruu

2018-03-24 13:37:37 UTC  

but you must still strive to be right

not just sink to the easy "good boy" status because its easier

2018-03-24 13:40:12 UTC  

but its because they want a state where its basically "its okay, atleast you tried"

2018-03-24 13:51:12 UTC  

I’m just saying there’s an actual historical basis for claiming claiming sexuality is fluid and not binary.

2018-03-24 13:51:51 UTC  

At the same time there’s nothing that’s going to convince me gender is a spectrum

2018-03-24 13:54:19 UTC  

I’m also not trying to claim gender dysphoria isn’t a mental illness, because it clearly is

2018-03-24 13:55:39 UTC  

well thats not even the issue

When you look at it, nobody cares what consenting adults do behind closed doors
If i don't know a person is a tranny, gay person or chinese, why should i care?

2018-03-24 13:56:31 UTC  

its the fact they want to A, push this on children, and B force me to somehow partake in knowing what their sexuality is about that bothers me (and most people about this issue)

2018-03-24 13:56:58 UTC  

its like the internets rule on girls

If you don't know the other player is one, you can't be sexist towards them

2018-03-24 13:57:58 UTC  

also 100% on your 3 statements

2018-03-24 14:03:22 UTC  

Like, personally I’m willing to entertain the notion that people want to differentiate between biological sex & gender. Sex is what your born with, gender is the roles society tends to impart on a person sure. You wanna change your role in society, by all means go for it, I don’t give a shit. You can’t change your biology. I also refuse to buy into this bajillion different genders crap. You wanna define gender as the roles & norms imparted onto you by society, fine, but if you’re gunna do that you get 3 genders maximum. Male, which historically means the provider role & norms. Female, historically meaning home caregiver role & norms. Enlightened, basically forgo traditional world view for spiritual enlightenment. The 3rd gender basically died when abrahamic religions took over because they’re all patriarchal.

2018-03-24 14:04:28 UTC  

You wanna take on a different gender role than the sex you were born into, be my guest, this is a free society

2018-03-24 14:05:15 UTC  

Technology has advanced far enough that you don’t have to take on your traditional role

2018-03-24 14:05:25 UTC  

Rejoice

2018-03-24 14:07:54 UTC  

The problem I have with this tumblr gender bullshit is that these people don’t seem to understand wtf a gender is

2018-03-24 14:08:04 UTC  

They just want one that sounds special & fancy

2018-03-24 14:08:32 UTC  

thats what i said earlier, they want something unique to define them because they don't have anything unique about them

2018-03-24 14:10:53 UTC  

also gender arguably has no meaning at all

It just nudges that a person tends to prefer the traits of said biological sex

If theres only 2 biological sexes there can only be 2 genders since the term is used to say "you resemble masculine traits mostly or feminine traits"

2018-03-24 14:13:43 UTC  

tumblr people see gender as the emotional state of mind nowadays

Where some kind of "Stronggender" implies they feel confident

And "Pouty-kin gendered" means they're feeling depressed or something

2018-03-24 14:14:38 UTC  

The reason I go 3 is historically there are those who forgo all masculine & feminine traits, as well as most of their earthly ties to try and attain spiritual enlightenment. In western & Islamic civilization we have specific ways to attain this enlightenment for each gender (Christianity has the priesthood for men, & the nunnery for women), but in many eastern & Native American cultures they didn’t

2018-03-24 14:14:55 UTC  

Biological men & women took the same path to enlightenment

2018-03-24 14:16:30 UTC  

but its still based on the 2 sexes

Men -> Strong, confident, protective, robust, resilient
Women -> agreeable, nurturing, caring, warm

2018-03-24 14:17:10 UTC  

It’s only based on the sexes in western culture

2018-03-24 14:17:42 UTC  

In eastern culture the only way you could really tell what sex an enlightened was, was by physically checking their genitalia

2018-03-24 14:18:12 UTC  

i think thats because non-western culture rejects gender as a concept 😛 If you're a man but think you're a woman in Middle east you get thrown off of a roof
In east-asia you have to end your life to bring honor
In Africa you get eaten

2018-03-24 14:19:03 UTC  

That’s because most of the peaceful cultures of old that had these beliefs have been genocided

2018-03-24 14:22:27 UTC  

but i still find myself in disagreement towards this

Gender is simply a generalisation of "In a large group of men, most will exhibit these traits" same with wamen

And this is still defined in any culture
In the middle east, Men are considered the stronger ones because in their nature they are supposed to be the strong alpha ones in general

In China you had the one child policy where the people prefered to have boys because they were more advantageous for a family to have because men in general can carry more weight

2018-03-24 14:23:01 UTC  

One of my favorite societies & cultures to ever exist was the Iroquois League that inhabited precolonial New York & Pennsylvania. Sadly they’re basically extinct today because, the right of Conquest is a thing

2018-03-24 14:23:55 UTC  

Despite what Hollywood movies like Avatar may show us, Gun > Stick

2018-03-24 14:24:35 UTC  

but if yuo break stick

2018-03-24 14:24:39 UTC  

then you have two stick

2018-03-24 14:24:43 UTC  

stick win every time

2018-03-24 14:26:31 UTC  

I mean, yes, in modern eastern culture the 3rd gender is basically dead

2018-03-24 14:27:02 UTC  

The 3rd gender basically died universally when abrahamic religion took over the world

2018-03-24 14:27:28 UTC  

Because abrahamic religions are patriarchal in nature

2018-03-24 14:28:22 UTC  

but im saying there can't be a 3rd gender because genders are derived from the traits found in the biological sexes

2018-03-24 14:28:34 UTC  

for a 3rd gender to exist you need a 3rd sex

2018-03-24 14:29:03 UTC  

I’m saying the 3rd is derived from the null

2018-03-24 14:29:53 UTC  

You can’t magically become null.

2018-03-24 14:30:04 UTC  

and how is that defined? cuz it sounds like the "agender" bull that tumblrists preach