Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-03-31 11:46:09 UTC  

Jay what about the USSR supporting communist parties in the west?

2018-03-31 11:46:22 UTC  

So? the USA supports Capitalist parties in the East

2018-03-31 11:46:25 UTC  

What's the point in having an alliance with another nation if you just let them get shit on without recourse.

2018-03-31 11:46:45 UTC  

Rye the USSR also went to war with Poland but Britian and France didn't go to war with the USSR why?

2018-03-31 11:47:09 UTC  

"Russia had not initiated aggression, hence they were seen as something of unlikely allies at the time
and Russia invading Poland was shoved under "Retaliation for Operation Barbarossa" and "Liberating Poland from the Nazis""

2018-03-31 11:47:29 UTC  

Didn't the USSR switch sides during WW2?

2018-03-31 11:47:34 UTC  

I'm remembering that correctly, right?

2018-03-31 11:47:42 UTC  

they had a non-aggression pact

2018-03-31 11:48:05 UTC  

basically Stalin and Hitler came together initially and said "You get half of Poland and i get a half, and we wont attack each other so we can defend against the other fronts"

2018-03-31 11:48:30 UTC  

but then hitler invaded Russia in an attempt to take Moskou, breaking the pact

2018-03-31 11:48:30 UTC  

Yes they were allies with Germany so they could get east Poland so why didn't Britian or France declare war on the USSR?

2018-03-31 11:48:39 UTC  

i told you twice!

2018-03-31 11:48:41 UTC  

Russia had not initiated aggression, hence they were seen as something of unlikely allies at the time
and Russia invading Poland was shoved under "Retaliation for Operation Barbarossa" and "Liberating Poland from the Nazis"

2018-03-31 11:48:59 UTC  

they didn't declare war because why fight two wars when you can end at 1

2018-03-31 11:49:29 UTC  

after WW2 the russians didn't continue their conquest, so they were left at their borders

2018-03-31 11:49:51 UTC  

Jay the USSR wanted to invade Germany so the German invasion was ment to take them out before the USSR could take Germany out.

2018-03-31 11:50:08 UTC  

yes, according to your wikipedia article which itself states is full of plot-holes and unknowns

2018-03-31 11:50:30 UTC  

as i've said, its about as solid a case as the Trump-Russia dossier

2018-03-31 11:50:56 UTC  

Jay What about the USSR invading and occupying Barbarossa, parts Finland and the baltic states?

2018-03-31 11:51:11 UTC  

Aussie, a 'Revisionist' is literally someone who embelishes a story based losely on facts.

2018-03-31 11:51:50 UTC  

basically, what that article told me is that this guy decided to write a story to explain things after the fact, without any real evidence to back it up.

2018-03-31 11:52:10 UTC  

Since he's attributed to this 'Operation Thunderstorm', and there's no other source for it

2018-03-31 11:52:23 UTC  

It's kinda bunk.

2018-03-31 11:52:34 UTC  

Yes and as I've told you these people use Primany sources to prove what they claim so their enemies call them revisionists.

2018-03-31 11:53:01 UTC  

and yet you link us to their 'enemies', instead of primary sources?

2018-03-31 11:53:18 UTC  

sounds pretty revisionist to me.

2018-03-31 11:54:29 UTC  

I suggest you read some of David Irvings work to understand WW2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwFzm6rZH3o&t=3s

2018-03-31 11:54:30 UTC  

ya'll are movin' around too much

2018-03-31 11:54:43 UTC  

stick to one topic, clean it up

2018-03-31 11:54:44 UTC  

You linked to the Operation Thunderstorm bullshit which debunks itself. You linked to Bloody Sunday, which said that Germany was the aggressor

2018-03-31 11:54:51 UTC  

bouncing around just makes you look retarded

2018-03-31 11:54:52 UTC  

You're not proving your point.

2018-03-31 11:55:41 UTC  

You didn't dispute the fact that Russia's armed forces were focused on defending on the Japanese front

2018-03-31 11:56:15 UTC  

which would imply that they were NOT attempting an invasion, further debunking your operation: afternoon shower

2018-03-31 11:56:23 UTC  

he's using that as the reason Hitler invaded first, cuz the Russian western-front would be weak

2018-03-31 11:56:40 UTC  

Yes there were Russian armed forces in the east to stop the Japanes from invading. I don't deny that.

2018-03-31 11:57:08 UTC  

But Rye they were planing to invade Europe.

2018-03-31 11:57:19 UTC  

according to your shoddy wikipedia article

2018-03-31 11:57:42 UTC  

i mean, its synonimous with the Bush invasion of Iraq

2018-03-31 11:57:51 UTC  

"Oh saddam has WMD's, lets invade"

2018-03-31 11:58:05 UTC  

strike first, under the flag of preventing