Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-05-17 19:13:42 UTC  

I know that's the truth. In general, unless someone's trying to actively prove a point, they generally just want to be left alone.

2018-05-17 19:13:58 UTC  

there's a huge chasm between those who want to get extra special treatment all the time, and the least of them have actual gender dysphoria; and the ones who just want to live a "normal as much" life and go unnoticed. the latter just don't sacrifice their functioning life where noone knows they're trans. Because why the fuck would you tell that to anyone but the inevitable closest ones?

2018-05-17 19:15:00 UTC  

I know way too many of the "in hiding" (for lack of a better word atm), transsexuals, to believe in any way that all these loudmouths have anything profound to say about us, much less speak for us

2018-05-17 19:17:31 UTC  

it does kinda bug me to be refered to as having a mental disorder though

2018-05-17 19:17:36 UTC  

there's a really good statement about all of that by Jordan B Peterson actually, in an interview from summer last year. I name that because he basically regurgitates what I (and probably some of the others who wrote him) wrote to him regarding that issue, just in a more sophisticated and concise manner. Was really lifting a weight off my shoulders to hear that

2018-05-17 19:18:49 UTC  

well, yeah... @Arch-Fiend It is certainly an anomaly at least, and it causes problems. To find less unnerving terminology for that, is a side issue to me... I'm already autistic, and had to learn to cope with that so 😛

2018-05-17 19:19:25 UTC  

I think it was somewhere around the middle of this interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC1pvjyKYr4 But I'm not sure

2018-05-17 19:19:57 UTC  

I mean, "Mental Disorder" is pretty watered down

2018-05-17 19:20:14 UTC  

Considering that it can be anything from ADHD, Autism, Dyslexia, Schitzophrenia

2018-05-17 19:20:26 UTC  

well to me ive never had a negitive experince with it. though ive remained hidden so far. but in having never had a negitive experince i have a juxtiposition when its refered to as a disorder because my life feels more order this way

2018-05-17 19:20:42 UTC  

yeah... I understand the term as "some neuronal parts are fucking some things up", which is true for most people actually 😉 In this case some parts of the brain just... decided to develop into the wrong direction

2018-05-17 19:21:04 UTC  

It kind of comes down to just differences.

2018-05-17 19:21:07 UTC  

technically it IS the brain that's wrong, because the body just follows the genetic blueprint. Brain development, sadly, isn't just bound to that though

2018-05-17 19:21:43 UTC  

I've got ADHD and OCD (which, for the most part, I control and use as tools)

2018-05-17 19:22:57 UTC  

So, I mean, having a psychologist call things disorders is one thing.

2018-05-17 19:23:10 UTC  

It's a completely different thing when someone starts using the term politically.

2018-05-17 19:23:11 UTC  

A good friend of mine, one of the first people I told about my issue, surprised me with him having it too, just that he never told anyone. is the best family father i've met. and the awesomeness of his family (which is some luck too of course) really balances that out

2018-05-17 19:23:15 UTC  

hey, if the dysphoria isn't plagueing you too much really, I'd suggest trying the non-transitional route in life <.<" a functioning loving family can alleviate a lot of the subtle pain the dysphoria causes

2018-05-17 19:23:34 UTC  

my message didint get through

2018-05-17 19:23:56 UTC  

"theres also a bit of an existental question to whether sanity exists and mental order is even a real thing consitering what is a "typical" brain anyway? there arnt really perfect specimines of any creature because beyond clones no living thing is exactly the same as another outside incredible low probability"

2018-05-17 19:24:27 UTC  

I mean, JBP kinda touches on that pretty frequently, too.

2018-05-17 19:24:46 UTC  

yeah, essentially you could say that everything deviating from the statistical average, the normal, is a disorder, even a positive thing. There are positive sides to autism, if you're lucky and really just a high functioning one with few detriments. It happens in many math and physics and IT departments of universities. and yeah, OCD can have positive effects too, if channeled properly 😉

2018-05-17 19:25:16 UTC  

It's far better to acknowledge that you're a monster kept in check than to pretend you're entirely altruistically good.

2018-05-17 19:25:22 UTC  

most mathmatitians are autistic so there has to be a positive 😛

2018-05-17 19:25:25 UTC  

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2018-05-17 19:25:51 UTC  

i had to learn to keep my pathological altruism in check. and I still too often fail with that

2018-05-17 19:26:06 UTC  

is really bad when you come across pathological liars of any kind

2018-05-17 19:26:09 UTC  

i think what we really call disorders are social more than mental but they are observible neulogicly. something is a disorder though when you have functionality problems

2018-05-17 19:26:09 UTC  

I'm sure everyone's had violent thoughts. The fact that you have the facilities to not act on them is what brings you to the side of good.

2018-05-17 19:27:05 UTC  

I've often theorized that the rise of ADHD is an adaption to the information age.

2018-05-17 19:27:21 UTC  

It's less a disorder, and more just a different order.

2018-05-17 19:27:27 UTC  

i think disorder is applicable for things that are a detriment to your life; some you can integrate well, but eh... also for lack of a better word

2018-05-17 19:28:21 UTC  

different environments favour different traits and abilities. @RyeNorth This is an interesting topic where epigenetics might play an interesting role. But I'm not versed enough in that area

2018-05-17 19:29:07 UTC  

I mean, ADHD is labeled as a learning disability

2018-05-17 19:29:19 UTC  

it's a focus problem

2018-05-17 19:29:23 UTC  

but at the same time, I was tested early on with a rather high IQ.

2018-05-17 19:29:23 UTC  

i also have adhd

2018-05-17 19:29:27 UTC  

so yeah, can impede your learning

2018-05-17 19:29:38 UTC  

The biggest problem I ever had in school

2018-05-17 19:29:40 UTC  

and yeah i also was higher than average iq

2018-05-17 19:29:46 UTC  

And what caused me to lose focus