Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-05-19 06:17:30 UTC  

i think most people will adopt the native culture under normal cercomstances, however this is not the case in extreme cercomstances which you as a social engineer cannot always predict and can not always prevent.

2018-05-19 06:18:02 UTC  

mass immigation is an example of an extreme cercomstance

2018-05-19 06:18:09 UTC  

I mean, Our pal Aryan over there says we should just *force* everyone not white to leave.

2018-05-19 06:18:23 UTC  

another example is whatever the fuck is going on with black people in america

2018-05-19 06:18:26 UTC  

I don't think it's NECESSARY to do so.

2018-05-19 06:18:42 UTC  

i would disagree with his move

2018-05-19 06:19:03 UTC  

except maybe in europe for anyone whos part of the mass immigation there

2018-05-19 06:19:19 UTC  

because those huge population spikes will become cultural problems over time

2018-05-19 06:20:01 UTC  

just ending immigration there wont solve those, but id also be willing not to solve those for a compramise of shutting down immigration

2018-05-19 06:20:45 UTC  

see personally im just anti-immigration in general with no personal reguards for identity politics

2018-05-19 06:21:35 UTC  

As for the US, let's say you were to drop the safety net, to a degree.

2018-05-19 06:22:10 UTC  

Actually allow for a true failure state for individuals.

2018-05-19 06:22:29 UTC  

Regardless of race

2018-05-19 06:22:37 UTC  

failure state?

2018-05-19 06:23:50 UTC  

As in, no comfort in welfare.

2018-05-19 06:24:23 UTC  

interesting the first thing that came to my mind with failure state was ironicly creating a state for people who dont want to be american but also dont wanna live anywhere else 😛

2018-05-19 06:24:37 UTC  

I mean, that's also a possibility.

2018-05-19 06:24:42 UTC  

A far more realistic one.

2018-05-19 06:24:57 UTC  

If we could bring Federalism back to full force

2018-05-19 06:25:22 UTC  

Instead of waging these battles in the federal government

2018-05-19 06:25:23 UTC  

you mean actually have state rights again?

2018-05-19 06:25:37 UTC  

states could actually experiment with socialism if they so choose.

2018-05-19 06:28:57 UTC  

i was actually thinking about that earlier today. i have a theory that the evolution of information media has lead to the greater unionization of people in the united states and abroad because the speed of information has increased and now you know what your neighbers are doing and people have grown a tendency to push their ideology any way they can so use federal powers to supress ideologys elsewhere in the country even through the state laws there dont actually effect them. and this has lead to the homogenization of the united states but also a polerization of politics

2018-05-19 06:29:06 UTC  

Isn’t this California?

2018-05-19 06:29:39 UTC  

california isint socialist they are decadent

2018-05-19 06:29:46 UTC  

Things I'm trying to subvert with a state-based media company for 200, trebek.

2018-05-19 06:30:06 UTC  

Yea but they basically just ignore the federal government and do whatever they want

2018-05-19 06:30:33 UTC  

It's funny how right I think that is, Arch.

2018-05-19 06:30:36 UTC  

only good thing about them, unfortunately what they do and want is diplorible and selfish

2018-05-19 06:31:19 UTC  

they have like a huge fraction of our countrys economy

2018-05-19 06:31:28 UTC  

thats why they can do that

2018-05-19 06:31:42 UTC  

but they arnt socialist, they love capitalism under the facade

2018-05-19 06:32:07 UTC  

corporatism and capitalism are two different things.

2018-05-19 06:32:17 UTC  

Capitalism empowers the citizen.

2018-05-19 06:32:21 UTC  

if they went socialist they would give more power to the working class and that just wouldent suit them

2018-05-19 06:32:24 UTC  

I do have to agree though, it’s pretty amazing listening to Americans tell people of other nations how they should live, and listening to people from Europe, Australia, & Asia telling me how I should want to live

2018-05-19 06:32:45 UTC  

It’s quite amusing

2018-05-19 06:33:43 UTC  

In capitalism in it's truest form, the value you bring to society is directly converted into currency, which is the power to influence said society.

2018-05-19 06:33:46 UTC  

capitalist corporatism is an extention of capitalism though that simply is one of the means of businesses being privilaged above citiziens

2018-05-19 06:34:30 UTC  

it undermines the democracy but it is still capitalistic

2018-05-19 07:37:40 UTC  

Its not different from socialism taken to its extreme. Under extreme corporatism, the control lies with the corporations, under socialism, the government.