Message from @RyeNorth

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2018-05-19 06:02:21 UTC  

that the problematic guy in the video

2018-05-19 06:02:26 UTC  

isn't native,

2018-05-19 06:02:48 UTC  

"Alloysious Massaquoi was born in Liberia and moved at the age of four to Edinburgh, where he attended Boroughmuir High School."

2018-05-19 06:03:13 UTC  

so it would be even harder for him to emulate with the native culture

2018-05-19 06:03:22 UTC  

Right.

2018-05-19 06:04:10 UTC  

i mean not to an extreme deal because hey the difference between born and 4 in terms of relating to a culture isint that much, but i can ignore it

2018-05-19 06:04:29 UTC  

cant*

2018-05-19 06:05:02 UTC  

It would also have a lot to do with the means, reasons, and parental situation in migration.

2018-05-19 06:06:59 UTC  

basicly ive been trying to argue an ethnonationalist point this entire time which is to say that if you dont have an ethnic relation to the culture you live in then its harder for you to suport that culture. i supose the next line of thought would be "why live in a culture you dont have ehtnic relation too"

2018-05-19 06:07:48 UTC  

Put simply, culture can be chosen.

2018-05-19 06:08:19 UTC  

If you don't want to live in a culture you have no relationship to, that's a choice.

2018-05-19 06:09:02 UTC  

it can, but its easier to choose when theres people tto look up to in it that you can relate to. and its scentificly proven we relate to people who look more like us better than those who dont, regardless of our race

2018-05-19 06:09:35 UTC  

on average

2018-05-19 06:09:56 UTC  

Most definitely.

2018-05-19 06:10:05 UTC  

I can get that.

2018-05-19 06:10:13 UTC  

But then we get into the realm of authoritarianism.

2018-05-19 06:10:20 UTC  

Just because something is the average

2018-05-19 06:10:26 UTC  

does that mean that you make your laws based on that average?

2018-05-19 06:10:53 UTC  

Do you make your laws rigid, and in opposition to the outliers?

2018-05-19 06:11:16 UTC  

At what point is the cutoff of majority?

2018-05-19 06:11:38 UTC  

51%? 75%? are the bottom 25% the problem? the bottom 10%?

2018-05-19 06:11:43 UTC  

If you remove those, the average shifts.

2018-05-19 06:12:12 UTC  

That's the essence of a purity spiral.

2018-05-19 06:12:22 UTC  

The point of culture is that it can be adopted.

2018-05-19 06:12:27 UTC  

if your not serving the average your not serving the most. but that actually isint the point of this. it can be argued you serve both the majority and minority by segragating them if the minority has less of a chance of being happy sharing the space of the majority regardless of what you do as a governemnt or a society and the happyness of the minority effects your majority

2018-05-19 06:14:07 UTC  

But as for the members of an ethnic group that don't share the same history, but do share the same values

2018-05-19 06:14:20 UTC  

Do you weigh their ethnicity as more important as their values?

2018-05-19 06:14:33 UTC  

Do you judge them by the group, or by the individual?

2018-05-19 06:15:14 UTC  

you can only make rules for groups but you must account for individuals

2018-05-19 06:15:33 UTC  

That's a relatively fair answer.

2018-05-19 06:16:11 UTC  

See, the true way out of this is actually about as hard as ethno-nationalism, but far more fair.

2018-05-19 06:16:32 UTC  

Hold everyone to the same standard

2018-05-19 06:16:36 UTC  

and leave the exit door open.

2018-05-19 06:17:30 UTC  

i think most people will adopt the native culture under normal cercomstances, however this is not the case in extreme cercomstances which you as a social engineer cannot always predict and can not always prevent.

2018-05-19 06:18:02 UTC  

mass immigation is an example of an extreme cercomstance

2018-05-19 06:18:09 UTC  

I mean, Our pal Aryan over there says we should just *force* everyone not white to leave.

2018-05-19 06:18:23 UTC  

another example is whatever the fuck is going on with black people in america

2018-05-19 06:18:26 UTC  

I don't think it's NECESSARY to do so.

2018-05-19 06:18:42 UTC  

i would disagree with his move

2018-05-19 06:19:03 UTC  

except maybe in europe for anyone whos part of the mass immigation there

2018-05-19 06:19:19 UTC  

because those huge population spikes will become cultural problems over time