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is that it happened at about the same time as Jim Crow being struck down.
all im saying is that it makes since for immigrant desendents to recent the native culture
In fact, many people attribute it to Jim Crow, itself.
You're partially right, in a way
It wasn't slavery, per se
resent* rezent, im not sure how its spelled
But an impoverished community having their standards lowered from that of their fellow man
combined with a culture being funded that promoted a helpless attitude about the whole thing
These things, of course, coming from a time where racism WAS far more prevalent and acceptable
There were mistakes made, and there were intentional steps taken
and it's hard to tell which ones were which
But if you spot the most successful, sound minded black people, they've got a built in sense of personal responsibility and self-actualization
one that in the standard culture is ridiculed.
handling african american rehabilitation into the untited states after slavory needed to be with a lot of care. its actually a testamont to the endurence of human spirit in my opinion that they have managed to come this far because they were at a disadvantage like no other group of people has ever been in human history
Hence my point: The money that did change hands to the black community
Did not happen from the black community itself
It had to come from somewhere.
not even in a racial manor, though i think that was part of it. but from slaves to having to compete on the same terms with slave owners and natives who had centurys of built up wealth
You have to look at what was funded.
Civil Rights groups like the NAACP, whose entire existance DEPENDS on black oppression
because that video this conversation comes out of is scotland
which is why im speaking in terms of immigrants and not black people specificly
I hate to score an own-goal here concerning other arguments
or people without an ethnic or relatibly ethnic background in the culture they live in
but you have to consider, for a split second
that the problematic guy in the video
isn't native,
"Alloysious Massaquoi was born in Liberia and moved at the age of four to Edinburgh, where he attended Boroughmuir High School."
so it would be even harder for him to emulate with the native culture
Right.
i mean not to an extreme deal because hey the difference between born and 4 in terms of relating to a culture isint that much, but i can ignore it
cant*
It would also have a lot to do with the means, reasons, and parental situation in migration.
basicly ive been trying to argue an ethnonationalist point this entire time which is to say that if you dont have an ethnic relation to the culture you live in then its harder for you to suport that culture. i supose the next line of thought would be "why live in a culture you dont have ehtnic relation too"
Put simply, culture can be chosen.
If you don't want to live in a culture you have no relationship to, that's a choice.
it can, but its easier to choose when theres people tto look up to in it that you can relate to. and its scentificly proven we relate to people who look more like us better than those who dont, regardless of our race
on average
Most definitely.
I can get that.