when standards were dropped.

The Great Society did SO much harm.

if you relate to a slave, if you emulate with a slave, and you have only slaves to look up to, youll choose anything else

you and i have thousands of culture heros stretching back thousands of years

1964 minus 1863

africans have the least and more of their cultural hero's are forgotten every year

What makes it problematic to point out where things started to go sour

is that it happened at about the same time as Jim Crow being struck down.

all im saying is that it makes since for immigrant desendents to recent the native culture

In fact, many people attribute it to Jim Crow, itself.

You're partially right, in a way

It wasn't slavery, per se

resent* rezent, im not sure how its spelled

But an impoverished community having their standards lowered from that of their fellow man

combined with a culture being funded that promoted a helpless attitude about the whole thing

These things, of course, coming from a time where racism WAS far more prevalent and acceptable

There were mistakes made, and there were intentional steps taken

and it's hard to tell which ones were which

But if you spot the most successful, sound minded black people, they've got a built in sense of personal responsibility and self-actualization

one that in the standard culture is ridiculed.

handling african american rehabilitation into the untited states after slavory needed to be with a lot of care. its actually a testamont to the endurence of human spirit in my opinion that they have managed to come this far because they were at a disadvantage like no other group of people has ever been in human history

Hence my point: The money that did change hands to the black community

Did not happen from the black community itself

It had to come from somewhere.

not even in a racial manor, though i think that was part of it. but from slaves to having to compete on the same terms with slave owners and natives who had centurys of built up wealth

You have to look at what was funded.

Civil Rights groups like the NAACP, whose entire existance DEPENDS on black oppression

anyway its a bigger thing than black people in the usa

because that video this conversation comes out of is scotland

which is why im speaking in terms of immigrants and not black people specificly

I hate to score an own-goal here concerning other arguments

or people without an ethnic or relatibly ethnic background in the culture they live in

but you have to consider, for a split second

that the problematic guy in the video

isn't native,

"Alloysious Massaquoi was born in Liberia and moved at the age of four to Edinburgh, where he attended Boroughmuir High School."

so it would be even harder for him to emulate with the native culture

Right.

i mean not to an extreme deal because hey the difference between born and 4 in terms of relating to a culture isint that much, but i can ignore it

cant*

It would also have a lot to do with the means, reasons, and parental situation in migration.