Message from @Arch-Fiend

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2018-06-07 12:21:17 UTC  

I think the issue is that people thibk that the less abled need to be made to feel normal so instead of treating them normal they get treated better which causes a division in the first place

2018-06-07 12:22:36 UTC  

And yes Aussie, but you need a better definition, its like saying remove stupid people, and then half of America wants republicans gone because "Republicans are stupid, so they should be removed"

2018-06-07 12:23:04 UTC  

Bad genes is too broad because what is bad is subjective

2018-06-07 12:23:08 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend I agree that having the races be the same is behind alot of the problems we face today. For example if we don't treate the africans like Europeans or Americans and give them western medicine their poplations wold still in the low millions instead of over a billion.

2018-06-07 12:23:16 UTC  

and this isint some kind of divercity bs, its simply that we have evolved with a need for a greater number of tools mentally than you get from "males think this way" and "females think this way" you need some veriaty in the base cognitive machinizations in male and female populations in order to form communitys in the hunter gatherer society because there are a wiiiiiide number of psychological tasks required for human existance and any edge you can get by distributing the load along specialists is a survival trait

2018-06-07 12:23:51 UTC  

@Dr.Wol I mean people with lower IQ's mate it's not subjective.

2018-06-07 12:24:13 UTC  

i see SOME mental disorders as evolutionary specialization

2018-06-07 12:24:39 UTC  

Depends, if you make IQ tests the sjw way, people get higher scores for being lessers

2018-06-07 12:24:58 UTC  

theres a reason that our current specialized fields of knowledge pick up different trends in mental disorders

2018-06-07 12:25:26 UTC  

such as mathmatics having a higher proportion of autism than any other field

2018-06-07 12:25:43 UTC  

@Arch-Fiend I disagree mental disorders don't need to be a thing what needs to be a thing is having the average IQ be alot higher.

2018-06-07 12:26:07 UTC  

there is a limit to what you can do with a brain aussie

2018-06-07 12:26:35 UTC  

I mean objective IQ, you can't fuge a IQ test.

2018-06-07 12:26:58 UTC  

The person grading the test is the judge of that

2018-06-07 12:27:11 UTC  

i know, theres a LIMIT to what you can do with the 5 pounds of flesh between your ears

2018-06-07 12:27:13 UTC  

Thats the issue

2018-06-07 12:27:33 UTC  

we dont actually fully understand the consaquences of having such high iq

2018-06-07 12:28:31 UTC  

we assume there isint any, however ive noticed trends just from all the high iq people i personally know toward early life strokes that cause their iq to drop a lot before they can ever fully apply it

2018-06-07 12:29:18 UTC  

we also dont know how important iq is to ALL mental tasks

2018-06-07 12:30:02 UTC  

iq doesent cover all things your brain does, it messures computation

2018-06-07 12:30:21 UTC  

and a few other things but it certainly doesent cover everything

2018-06-07 12:30:46 UTC  

iq is also cooralated with lower agression. thats not a good thing

2018-06-07 12:31:10 UTC  

agression is negitively stigmatized and wrongly so

2018-06-07 12:31:52 UTC  

perhaps that is why, if you believe IQ to be strongly linked to genetics, having high IQs was detrimental to living in places like Africa.

2018-06-07 12:32:40 UTC  

But look, on an "ideological" scale, im right with you Aussie, remove the bad elements and promote the good will generate a more positive society.

The issue is that in reality that requires incredible power to the people in charge (the state) and the state isnt inviable, leadership changes, people get corrupt.

And before you know it, the state that was meant to help you ends up trying to kill you

I don't trust the state with that much power

2018-06-07 12:33:25 UTC  

i dont even agree with removing the "bad"

2018-06-07 12:33:44 UTC  

i also think people will naturally remove the bad through selective breeding

2018-06-07 12:34:08 UTC  

technically almost everyone agrees "remove the bad and promote the good".

2018-06-07 12:34:14 UTC  

high iq though does also seem to be cooralated to slower breeding

2018-06-07 12:34:27 UTC  

the problem is bad and good are subjective, which is why having that power is easily corrupted.

2018-06-07 12:34:43 UTC  

enemies to your power become bad, people who submit to you become good.

2018-06-07 12:34:53 UTC  

Exactly

2018-06-07 12:35:28 UTC  

If Aussie wants to live in a gated community of white only people, now degenerates allowed, fine. he can. no problem.

2018-06-07 12:35:34 UTC  

probably because we put more pressure to perform for us as a society on high iqs and my own personal theory that higher iq people have more complex mating rituals than lower iq people and that doesent speed things up even when they meet other high iq people

2018-06-07 12:35:37 UTC  

so long as he leaves me alone

2018-06-07 12:36:11 UTC  

he can promote tribalism as being the golden age, just like my ancap friends.

2018-06-07 12:36:16 UTC  

High IQ is correlated with BDSM i hear? 😁

2018-06-07 12:36:26 UTC  

😏

2018-06-07 12:36:30 UTC  

😉

2018-06-07 12:36:55 UTC  

guess females on average have a high IQ then. it would explain 50 shades of grey

2018-06-07 12:37:11 UTC  

theres a lot of males into bdsm