Message from @Grenade123

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2018-06-26 00:36:45 UTC  

Anyway I find it hard to see why some events from over 200 years ago matter. South Korea was distoryed by North Korea less then a century ago and they still recovered.

2018-06-26 00:37:03 UTC  

sucks for them lol
I hate getting occupied by Britain

2018-06-26 00:37:18 UTC  

1) Haiti faced international boycott in response to driving out the French. Everyone refused to trade with them. As a result their economy tanked. The only other nation to receive this level of trade denial in modern history is North Korea.
2) Haiti was absolutely garbage at adaptation to the modern world. It's only just now that they've begun to adapt to the booming tech industry

2018-06-26 00:37:22 UTC  

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2018-06-26 00:38:13 UTC  

@Deller Again that was over a century ago. America has tried to rebuild haiti 3 times in the last centry so tell me why they are still poor.

2018-06-26 00:38:50 UTC  

Because they tried to rebuild what they had instead of rebuilding with the new world in mind

2018-06-26 00:38:59 UTC  

Haiti was the richest colony in the carrabean before independence. The blacks distoryed the place.

2018-06-26 00:39:14 UTC  

Richest place in the world actually

2018-06-26 00:39:19 UTC  

They did the same in Europe and it worked.

2018-06-26 00:39:46 UTC  

But when they finally for reconstruction aid they tried to reconstruct their former glory

2018-06-26 00:39:48 UTC  

They totally should've waited like 60 years when Europe abolished slavery.

2018-06-26 00:40:11 UTC  

And found out oops, it's not 1800 anymore

2018-06-26 00:40:24 UTC  

What worked then, didn't work

2018-06-26 00:40:37 UTC  

Haiti was slow to adapt

2018-06-26 00:40:46 UTC  

Obscenely slow

2018-06-26 00:40:48 UTC  

The fact is haiti is poor and Iceland is rich because the people are the most important thing for a nation.

2018-06-26 00:40:52 UTC  

@Deleted User explain the difference between north and south korea. I mean, if biology is the deciding factor, these two places must have very different given how drastic a dichotomy there is.

2018-06-26 00:41:07 UTC  

Yes I know systems matter.

2018-06-26 00:42:28 UTC  

Communism makes countires shit. We both know that.

2018-06-26 00:43:57 UTC  

no no no, you have to follow your logic. If culture and the ability to create civilizations are determined by biology, then these two should be similar. Otherwise the fact that these other countries have been tribal or authoritarian becomes a non-biological reason for the issue.

2018-06-26 00:44:19 UTC  

and you need to explain the stability and lack of unity in Italy.

2018-06-26 00:44:40 UTC  

The North Italians are different to southern Italians.

2018-06-26 00:45:04 UTC  

oh, but north and south germans are the same?

2018-06-26 00:45:05 UTC  

It just doesn't have to do with biology. Its about the set back black and brown cultures across the world have endured, either forced upon them or forced by their own hand. They'll get back up, but I'm not a man who supports reparations or anything.. not since they've hurt the Western world in their journey upwards.

2018-06-26 00:45:43 UTC  

Yes they are. The Northern Italians have more Roman blood while the southern Italians have more Arab blood.

2018-06-26 00:45:50 UTC  

@zero_consequences doesn't help that a lot of western countries are just typically not nearly as dangerous for humans to live in than lots of other places

2018-06-26 00:46:32 UTC  

That is because western nations are white nations and whites commit less crime then blacks and hispanics.

2018-06-26 00:46:54 UTC  

that has nothing to do with it

2018-06-26 00:47:04 UTC  

What are you talking about then?

2018-06-26 00:47:15 UTC  

the environments are just not nearly as filled with stuff out to kill you

2018-06-26 00:47:44 UTC  

living in the woods in north America is much easier than a rain forest or desert

2018-06-26 00:47:56 UTC  

Not sure, equatorial hemispheres have just about as many things that want to kill you as north hemis lol but i know what you're getting at

2018-06-26 00:47:58 UTC  

Australia has a bad evnironment but were still safter then alot of other countires.

2018-06-26 00:48:12 UTC  

yeah

2018-06-26 00:48:19 UTC  

Weather being the equalizing factor

2018-06-26 00:48:27 UTC  

Australia didn't really have many people on until we sent our rejects there

2018-06-26 00:49:14 UTC  

also the coasts are pretty cozy

2018-06-26 00:49:36 UTC  

True. Also Europe is a harder in evironment to live in then subharran africa because of the winters.

2018-06-26 00:49:40 UTC  

But lets be honest, its not the saharan asp thats killing off sudanese refugees by the hundred thousands

2018-06-26 00:50:16 UTC  

most coasts are generally survivable assuming it you can get fresh water

2018-06-26 00:50:30 UTC  

trust me, winter is easier to survive than the jungle