They're all on the bridge to utopia regardless how many planks of the bridge are fucking missing.

the guys I were discussing with didn't deny they were commies. But they denied they were fascists, in every way possible

mfw the fictional society the word "utopia" was based on is now widely recognized as a dystopia 🤔

They dangle the carrot of utopia before a populace to convince them to do things that they would object to otherwise.

utopias don't even work in fiction

Insectopia

"Antifa is facsist" is mostly rhetoric I think
Point being they claim to fight facsism but they're also incredibly authoritarian

Utopias don't work in fiction because they would make the story boring.

Not even that, aidan

if a group advocates for full authoritarianism, I call that fascism. Am I wrong?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2AhGYo9TExU

'liberals get the bullet, too'

Exactly

Authoritarians seek power to control culture.

Invariably.

It's the easy route for someone willing to get their hands dirty.

Why convince people

Why compromise

fascists seem more chill than antifa

When you can just wild the monopoly on force

@RyeNorth nope hitler was far-right

and yes, he was a socialist

Monopoly on violence

since when is socialism automaticly left-wing?

always?

uh, since the modern definitions of those terms were created

Hitler is regarded as centrist authoritarian by most counts.

Socialism is currently extremely left.

as in most people espousing it are? Sure.

Anyone calling him 'far right' is attempting to smear conservative perspectives

Personally I don't see Antifa as fascist, though they do operate under principle of "By All Means Necessary" that makes up part the Fascisms core belive when it comes to accomplishing their goal, their goal is just radically different to that of fascism.

Since when is the right conservatives?

tbf republicans are pretty socialist

ffs hitler was clearly a far-right progressive socialist

hitler was center, at best

It's might makes right which both fascists and antifa believe.

**Hey.**

Hitler had a dog.

i read the nazis had arguments about if they were right or left so i think they didnt even know

I think that proves my point.

The political compass website for one literally equates more socialism with farther left and more capitalism further right